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Let's not get paranoid about reporting research into techniques other then ablation.. Nobody believes that Stem Cell research is currently "ready", but having to remove any mention of it is simply ridiculous. Who are you trying to protect?
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Still, I would deem your comment about Steve Ryan "Ryan is speculating rather wildly when he predicts that stem cell injections will become standard treatment for afib" as disrespectful, and ill-informed. I am sure he knows what he is doing without your negative commentary.
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The day when a-fib can actually be considered "cured" will probably occur in the future...but it may be many years before that happens. It is good to know that research is being done approaching it from several different angles.
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Well, just think how long it takes to go through 6 ablations.
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Well, just think how long it takes to go through 6 ablations.
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We all live in the present, like it or not, and one key to happiness I have found is being at ease with reality as we find it and with accepting living at ease and at peace with the unknown.
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Keep in mind that many -- probably most -- people who read this forum don't have a science or medical background. What they have is afib, and many of them are scared, feel hopeless, and are getting conflicting advice from friends, relatives, the internet, and even their doctors.
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And the hopelessness and fear is gone.
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Distinguishing between nonsense and useful information isn't as obvious to everyone reading this as it may be to you,
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Really, so you are saying that most coming here are stupid?
If that is the case, then I want valid studies that back up what is being said on the AF forum.
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The elimination of panic is Step #1. That should be the goal of any support group, forum and, yes, even healthcare providers!
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You have taken my words out of context:
I didn't say that people coming here are stupid, Carey said 'many coming here may not be able to distinguish between nonsense and useful information. I have found that most that have come here are very intelligent, they found this site and have added a lot.
Adios
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The elimination of panic is Step #1. That should be the goal of any support group, forum and, yes, even healthcare providers!
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Luckily I've got rid of the fear mostly by reading the book The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle. It's not about afib but how our mind work.
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OK, truce.
Sometimes hard to distinguish between all in the written word, a lot easier in person. Please don't leave, we need your sense of "humor"
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That's a different process for each person, I'd guess. For me, I decided to test the theory that AF wasn't life threatening. My first set of doctors gave me horrible advice (take benzo, stay out of the gym, increase beta blocker, etc). I said the hell with all that and went to the gym anyway. I couldn't run, so I decided to speed walk outside as fast as I could. By their reasoning, my heart rate should go out of control and I'll fall over somewhere. Maybe some good Samaritan would find me or maybe not. I'll just see. Instead of any of that happening, I kept getting faster and faster, and after about mile 3 I found I could jog. By the time I got back to the gym, I hopped on the treadmill and the pulse meter was able to establish my heart rate when it could not before. I wound that thing up to my normal speeds and went to 5 minutes or so to see what would happen. Which was nothing. I had just learned my first real lesson in what would turn out to be vagally-mediated AF. The fear was conquered at that point, and the real road to recovery began.
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Shannon, It's interesting that in "Lone Atrial Fibrillation Towards a Cure", Hans Larsen described Ablation as a cure, which it certainly is not. Yes, stem cell therapy is part of the search for a cure, in this case for Atrial Fib, so the topic already has over 400 views. Via discussion, we learn the risks, false claims, and promise of any potential "cure." To me, that's the value of a discussion board.
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All that is true Jpeters, and Hans wrote that book at a time when he was hopeful for an 'eventual' cure, as we all are! Hans also clearly and deliberately noted in his title: "....Towards a Cure" ... as in moving hopefully forward towards a cure in the future ... not implying the present.
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