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David People have reported differing recovery times here. I had paroxysmal AF for many years and as time went on the episodes lasted longer, and happened more often, until eventually they all joined up. I had persistent AF for 18 months, then went to Bordeaux in January 2003. I was completely back to normal 3 days after ablation.and touch up, and felt great. 4 months later I was scubaby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Mary Rae I had persistent AF for 18 months before my ablation and touch up in January 2003 in Bordeaux and have been in nsr ever since - almost 12 years. The procedure was in its early days at that time but I still had a good result because I had one of the best EPs in the world, Prof. Haissaguerre. I eat and drink whatever I want, exercise moderately and have no triggers. I do get lots oby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Cardioversion 1, external, no meds, lasted 36 hours. Cardioversion 2, external, with Flecainide, didn't work even for a few seconds. Cardioversion 3, internal, with Flecainide, lasted 48 hours. I was in persistent AF. Gillby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Researcher I think that Lesley meant that it is early days since her Bordeaux ablation. Gill Oops! George got in just ahead of me!by Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
It is on special offer, clearance while stocks last. Very good price, and it produces useful ECGs which can be emailed or printed. Gillby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi Lesley I do hope that your ablation is successful. I am so grateful to the doctors in Bordeaux for giving me 11½ years of nsr. In 2002 when I first consulted Prof. Haîssaguerre only two people in UK were doing ablations, and they had only just started. I hadn't found this board at that time so didn't know the importance of choosing a skilled and experienced EP but I had doneby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Lesley Who did your previous ablations, and where? Gillby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Shannon >>I'm not sure how long ago Prof Haissaguerre noted your particularly toxic and difficult to quiet down CS<< It was in January 2003. He said that he isolated the pulmonary veins, did the roof line, and the line from the LIV to the mitral annulus. He said after the first ablation that he had done everything that it was possible to do. So I think he did not attemptby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Shannon He also told me that Bordeaux's long term success rates for persistent AF were not good, and that I had been very lucky. I asked him which piece of research he was referring to and he just said "Bordeaux's own publications". From what I have read this is certainly not the case. What is your view? Gillby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Ben AF recurred three days after my first ablation so Professor Haissaguerre did an immediate touch up. He suspected that one of the veins might have reconnected but that was not the case. There was an extremely toxic focus in the coronary sinus which was extremely difficult to find and ablate, and he said that he wasn't sure that he had been able to get all of it. I suspect this is whby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Today I had my annual checkup at King's College Hospital in London. I have been in nsr since my ablation and touch up in Bordeaux 11½ years ago but I get huge numbers of ectopics. I usually see a Consultant EP that I work very well with but he has moved to another hospital so I saw a new one, young and keen. During the discussion I told him that if ever AF recurred I would want to be reby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Will be thinking of you Jackie, and sending good vibes. Gillby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thanks for those links, George, lots of useful information. I see that acute inflammation can cause raised fibrinogen levels. Just before I had the latest test I had been scuba diving in Cozumel, and had banged my left leg very hard on the side of the boat while doing a backward roll entry. This resulted in severe bruising between knee and toes. I wonder if this could have caused the high fby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
I live in UK and have been taking Doctor's Best Nattokinase. I have fibrinogen tests whenever I am in the US. I have been trying to get the level below 300. Here are the most recent dosage and test results: Oct 2012 - fibrinogen 297. NK dosage 8,000 May 2013 - fibrinogen 366. NK increased to 10,000 FUs July 2013 - fibrinogen 323. NK increased to 12.000 FUs Apr 2014 - fibrinogeby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Denver Congratulations! Good to hear from another old timer. I am just ahead of you on this road - 76 years old and have had 11½ years of nsr since my ablation and touch up in Bordeaux, no medication, though I do get a lot of ectopics sometimes. I can't match your exercise routine but I do work out three times a week and do lots of stretching. I am currently in Cozumel scuba diviby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Mark I second everything that Shannon said, but just want to add one thing. In my experience some GPs will try to fob you off and tell you that you can't choose your consultant, especially outside your area, but if you are stubborn and insistent you can eventually get what you want. Negotiating the NHS is tricky but 'Patient Choice' is supposed to be important according to pby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
I think it takes a good EP to read an ECG accurately. I was once told by 2 ER doctors that mine showed AF but the EP later said it was just bursts of ectopics. After 8½ years of nsr post ablation I was very relieved. Gillby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
An EP once told me that the ablation lines might not stop AF from happening but they should prevent it from sustaining itself. FWIW! Gillby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Iatrogenia I have been in nsr for over 11 years since my ablation in Bordeaux. The first year after the ablation I had a few ectopics but the number has increased almost every year since then. I sometimes get over 9,000 on a 24 hour Holter. The docs say they are a nuisance but not harmful. They used to be very uncomfortable, like being kicked in the chest every few seconds and I was considby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
I had a mail from the AF Association which says: AliveCor are making available a limited number of their Heart Monitors for the unbelievable price of only £99! (incl. VAT). Please hurry, this incredible deal is only available in the 4 weeks that surround this year’s Heart Rhythm Week and ends Saturday 14th June. 3 Simple steps to claim your discount: 1. Click here now 2. Choose theby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Sally Did you ask who would be doing your ablation? I think when it is an easy procedure (eg knee arthroscopy) it is almost certain to be the registrar doing it, but for difficult ones like ablation I would guess there is a high chance that the consultant himself will do it. I would send an email to his secretary and ask. Gillby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
When people struggle to find a 'reason' or 'trigger' for an attack of Afib I wonder if they should bear this in mind. Worth reading if you need a smile today! Gillby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Lou Great idea, I'm up for a reunion in Bordeaux any time. Though it's a lot easier for me to get to than most people here on the board! Gillby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Aldona Very happy for you. I well remember your trips to Bordeaux and, like you, I think those doctors are wonderful. Gillby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Ralph Since my ablation in 2003 I have had no Afib but increasing numbers of ectopics, sometimes over 8000 on a 24 hour Holter. The EPs tell me they are a nuisance, nothing more, not dangerous in any way, but they used to be very uncomfortable, like being kicked in the chest every few minutes. Taking magnesium, potassium and taurine dampens them down so that I hardly feel them, thought theby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
I'm in too - I can contribute folk guitar, piano accordion and ukulele. But it would be a long journey from London for practice sessions! Gillby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Doreen Since my ablations in Bordeaux 11 years ago I have been able to eat and drink whatever I want with no problems. I happily dine out with reckless abandon! Gillby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Barb After his ablation in Bordeaux, BarryG was told by Dr. Hocini not to drink any wine - unless it was a good one! Gillby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Shannon It seems from what you wrote that doctors in the US do accept that people can tell when an episode starts, and will go ahead with cardioversion, but my one experience in UK suggests that British doctors don't. I still have an annual checkup with the EP so I have put it on my list of questions to ask him in July. Gillby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
I have been in NSR for over 11 years since ablation and touch up in Bordeaux in January 2003 but there is a question that has bothered me for a while. The general wisdom on the board seems to be that if you need a cardioversion you should get to the ER within 48 hours, or maybe even 24 hours. Three years ago I had an allergic reaction to a painkiller after knee surgery and my heart rhythm wasby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM