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Tim - three months may be the minimum time and many people have posted that they aren't back to 'normal' until six months have passed. You may not have helped to speed up your recovery by running so soon after ablation so you may now take a bit longer. If you used the recommended heart supplements prior to ablation, you should continue using as support; if you did not, then it pby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Terry - I've always taken mine together - just because I want to be sure I remember to get the dosing in. You may be thinking about the instructions where we start supplementing with magnesium initially..having not taken it previously and with regard to being magnesium deficient. Then it becomes important not to begin taking potassium for several weeks until your tissues become partiby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Carol - It's my understanding that GABA does not cross the blood brain barrier very easily but in some individuals, it works well anyway because it acts like a natural valium. I prefer using 5 HTP to help with sleep and have not experimented much with GABA myself or with the people to whom I've recommended the 5HTP for sleep issues. According to Julia Ross, some people find GABA insby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Dirk - I was mainly thinking of those who undergo the Maze procedure when they are also having valve replacement surgery. The two procedures are very often done together by cardiac surgeons; would seem to be expedient to correct both while the heart is open. However, in some cases, the ablation for the arrhythmia is not successful, as at least one has reported that I recall. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Curt - the remodeling aspect was a direct concern in my last years prior to ablation because of the frequency and duration of the events and the fact that flecainide was not working. In the final year prior to my decision to finally make 'that' appointment, I had events daily or every other day lasting 24 hours and more...often with only 4 hours of NSR and then back to AF again. I waby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Erling - thanks for revisiting this. It's a shame more people don't visit the Conference Room and see all the important contributions by Hans, PC, Fran, you and many more. Lots of good info sitting there waiting to be 'devoured'... Just look at the referenced post.... done 6 years ago... lots of newbie readers here are missing vital information by not visiting the Confeby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Ken - I didn't enter a password to get it for this post... Let me try to find another way... I know it's accessible to the public w/o passwords...that's odd. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Ken - you said: "Your comments about achieving "transmurality" are interesting because MM practioners (such as Dr Wolf) specifically mention that MM lesions are transmural as though those are "better" or "more effective" compare to catheter ablation lesions. I have found no articles to support or refute this claim. If you have some, please share." I takby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Adrian - to me, the lack of a courtesy response indicates the difference between a really conscientious service organization and all the others and really is inexcusable. The very least that could have been done is to respond to your first email indicating that they did not or were not able to give service to Canadian requests. How difficult would that be? When I heard the teleconference byby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Ken - at this link, if you scroll down to the remodelling section, this is an excellent paper aftirl fibrillation which includes a remodelling section (written by atrial fibrillation researcher David Van Wagoner, PhD of the Cleveland Clinic). Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Mike - logic would indicate that the absence of afib indicates your IC Mg levels are repleting nicely and able to maintain your NSR status...until you do something that depletes it... ie alcohol.. so based on that, I'd say you are either not fully 'optimized' yet, or you are a waster and will always be marginal so that known depleters will be able to generate AF for you. I'by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Ken - I believe the term you are looking for is 'transmurality' which describes the depth and efficacy of the lesion or burn from the catheter tip. Burns need to be deep enough to destroy the communication or signals between the gap junctions but not so deep as to burn through the heart wall and cause tamponade. In areas where the heart wall is thin or very close to another structurby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Sandy - you could try another brand or look for the liquid emulsified vitamin D3 forms to see if those are better. One by Biotics- Bio D-Mulsion Forte- - one drop = 2000 IU...so it's a really small amount to get the typical 4,000-5,000 a day. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Dirk - having struggled with drugs fto controll afib for 8 years and then having a successful PVI ablation, I can comment that I am still in favor of trying the drug route first rather than going directly for ablation. Better still, I am more in favor of trying the nutritional intervention approach along with a supportive drug system used PIP or Pill in Pocket (on demand) in cases where AF isby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Margie - There is a lot of info on the Internet about using beta sitosterol if you google it. My Functional Medicine MD recommends using it to help lower cholesterol. I have not noticed that it has any impact on my cholesterol levels and have taken it on and off for several years. Its also found useful in helping with benign prostatic hypertrophy. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Mike - There was nothing wrong with your posting your results on the BB so that we could view and discuss (and learn) from them. The person at Exatest was out of line to have made such a fuss about it at the time and is part of the reason we are now thinking retrospectively regarding Exatest - who they are; who runs the lab; etc... As far as we know, they are still the only ones offering thisby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Welcome, Ken - as others have stated, it's better to start a new thread here at the current BB link. There are factors that help reverse the remodelling and the atrial enlargment, mainly that of maintaining NSR rather than frequent AF which makes sense. To get to that point, there are various methods those of us who are in the Lone AF category have been very successful with either a cathetby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Steve D - Did you request and read my Observational Report? I address the fact that often those of us with successful ablations have breakthrough AF and my observations are about my own particular experiences of what sets the stage for breakthrough AF and what remedies seem to hold me in a state that does not support the recurrence. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Steve - an interesting, reflective post. Thanks for taking the time to offer it. As we continue to state, we are all different and experiments of one, but the fundamentals lie in what The Strategy report points out. That is, magnesium first, then potassium both modulated by taurine and supported with the adjunct neutraceuticals, CoQ, carnitine, ribose, Omega 3's, B complex and for some,by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Erling - This was just a short abstract that didn't go into any of the specific dosing details. I looked online to see if I could find more detail but was not successful. From The Mood Cure by Julia Ross: Boost your serotonin in 24 hours with 5-HTP. Try 50 to 150 mg of 5-HTP mid-afternoon (as the sun sinks) and again at 10 p.m. (if sleep or late night cravings are a problem). Why? 5-HTP coby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Erling - In my college years for dental hygiene, I was raised on Gray's Anatomy plus other more specific anatomy/physiology text books for class but you may find something useful here in this website for free downloads ... Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Claudia - when I first started on Coumadin years ago, one of the almost immediate reactions I had was a 'rash' type appearance around my ankles.... in reality, it was blood leaking from the cells but not going totally through the tissue so that I was actually dripping blood. They were like tiny blood blisters... defined medically as 'petechiae'. I was at home and phoniby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
A very small study of 18 patients with sleep disorders participated as outpatients in a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial which evaluated the use of 5HTP and GABA for sleep improvement. The conclusion indicated: The difference between the active and placebo groups was significant (P = 0.01). Ease of falling asleep, awakenings, and am grogginess improved. Objective measurement oby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Recent study conclusion: Initiation of a fibrate or statin that inhibits CYP3A4 enzymes, including atorvastatin, was associated with an increased risk of hospitalization for gastrointestinal bleeding. Initiation of pravastatin, which is mainly excreted unchanged, was not associated with an increased risk. Schelleman H, et al. Fibrate/Statin initiation in warfarin users and gastrointestinal blby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
May - those taking both warfarin and NK need to be supervised by a physician. As you point out, this is being done successfully. Finding a physician who is knowledgeable on the nattokinase part of it is the difficult part. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Peggy - I've often wondered about that 'setting off' trigger myself. I believe Steve says it well when he offers that people don't think for themselves. I view it as refusing to acknowledge that they need to take responsibility for their own health rather than turn over their health to a someone who doesn't live in that body. Worse yet, to take everything on blind faith. But the puzzling partby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Jill - no - they just put that in the product to keep it from oxidizing in the gelcap. The preventive dose of vitamin E in the Gamma E form is to help prevent the Omega 3 fish oil from oxidizing once it reaches your tissue. Often some bottlers will include one of the essential oils to help preserve the fish oil... such as rosemary and lemon. Probably the vitamin E is less costly. Various instrby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Al, just keep in mind that acid reflux typically comes about because of improper digestion of food. Be sure to visit the Conference Room Session on No More Heartburn... Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Ken - as long as your protocol keeps you out of afib, I guess that's the important thing... but be aware that Gatorade contains some ingredients that aren't considered to be healthy if used in any quantity or regularly... ie, Lemon-Lime Contains: Water, Sucrose Syrup, Glucose-Fructose Syrup, Citric Acid, Natural and Artificial Grape Flavors, Salt, Sodium Citrate, Monopotassium Phosby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Sue - I certainly hope you don't need to use it, but it's good to ask what to do if you have an AF breakthrough. I was given the PIP protocol of taking the betablocker Toprol XL at the onset (25 mg) and wait for 30 minutes, then take 100 mg. Flecainide and if not converted within an hour, take another 100 flec. It's a comfort having a Plan B just in case. I didn't needby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM