There has been discussion on ablation for flutter that shows up after the original ablation procedure. This article by Dr. Natale, et al is a good explanation of the corrective remedy and success complete with color illustrations. " Left Atrial Flutter Following Pulmonary Vein Antrum Isolation with Radiofrequency Energy: Linear Lesions or Repeat Isolation" Jennifer E. Cummings, M.D.by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Sue - since you are in California, I'd make the effort to get to Dr. Nataleif it's at all possible. Here's a link to some information about him: <; An afibber recently told me when he was waiting to see Dr. Natale in the San Francisco office, he had the opportunity to chat with many people also waiting to see him. They came from all over California and other nearby statesby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi Adrian - Good to see you posting. Hope all is well. I've posted this clip from Mildred Seelig's book, The Magnesium Factor, several times but here it is again so you can get the idea of why calcium is so detrimental in the heart cells of afibbers. Optimizing your IC magnesium stores is critical, but right along with that comes making sure the potassium levels are also optimal because thby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Mark - one of the best authorities on researching AF is David VanWagoner PhD of the Cleveland Clinic. I've posted this link several times... read through the remodelling portion to get his ideas on the topic. You may have to copy/paste this because for some reason, it doesn't seem to connect by clicking. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Nick - my functional medicine MD recommends between 4 and 6 grams a day (4, 000 to 6,000 mg) - I've been taking at least that much for about 8 years. She says it's good to keep your blood platelets slippery (anti-clotting) plus it reduces inflammation. Look in the product description for the words, pharmaceutical grade; molecularly distilled. Cheaper is not always better because youby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Brian - the coldness in a 70 degree room may indicate, in addition to poor circulation, that you are hypothyroid. Have you had a recent thyroid profile that includes free T3 and free T4? Hypothyroid as well as hyper can be triggers for afib. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Leo - I was just speculating. But now that you mention that much V8 - I'm wondering if it isn't just that amount of potassium chloride acting 'normally' in your body. Potassium in helps get sodium out and when sodium goes out, it carries water with it. Hence, more urinary frequency. If you 'go' alot, you will be eliminating minerals as well, that's just theby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
That's interesting as the ginkgo, E and NK all have some influence on the potential of blood to clot...although as you are experiencing, it is not reflected in an INR reading but it can be reflected ProTime. Just to be safe, I would cut back the E to 400 daily. Stop the ginkgo and use NK 2000 FU every other day (if at all) unless you are supervised by a physician to combine the two. Tby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Isabelle - any vitamin shoppe should have them so you can get quickly. You can order from iherb but it will take a few days. NOW brand as both as I recall. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
I can't explain the blocking. When I try to access it from this website here on the forum, I get the same message. When I copy/paste the same URL, I can access the site with no problem. Sorry for the inconvenience. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Isabelle - I'm sorry to see you are still struggling. Have you been evaluated for ulcers? People with ulcers are unable to tolerate coumadin. There can also be some occult bleeding and if you haven't been checked for that, you should insist on it. Obviously, a very bland diet (cooked) would be in order until your pain subsides and this would include avoiding all raw foods. You mayby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Barb - take the time to start reading about remodelling... I've given some excellent links in pst posts. You need to do research on the whole concept of what happens to the heart as afib progresses. Remodelling is part of the afib process - to what extent depends on the individual, just like the atrial scarring or fibrosis does. The VanWagoner article is an excellent place to start.by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Peggy - I'd think the Zyflamend helps with circulation as well and so would help with the cramping. (reduces inflammation and allows for better circulation - inflammation goes along with sticky, thick blood) The minerals sodium, calcium, magnesium and potassium all help prevent cramping but only when there is adedequate hydration...so be sure you are drinking plenty of pure water duringby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi Gay - there is a connection to cortisone and osteoporosis. You can find plenty of info in a google search. I realize you may have no options with the PMR, though. Good remedy for osteoporosis is weight bearing exercises and strength or resistance training - as in free weights. They don't have to be heavy - just do plenty of repetitions until exhaustion of that muscle set. (everyby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Leo - those pre-event diuretic events may be the hormonal aspect of the ANP starting to work ahead of the actual event. It should be a signal to you to shore up with even more magnesium and potassium to help keep lengthen the refractory period. Potassium does that along with magnesium. If you use a small amount of salt - use celtic sea salt - sparingly and see if it helps. Too much will compeby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Barb - the best thing you can do is observe the Paleo diet and hope that the flecainide works to keep you in NSR continually. I fear that you have gone on so long with the events that you, too, will be following in our footsteps with considerable remodelling. That makes it difficult, but not impossible to reverse. As Hans says... working at it early in the journey seems to be the key to succeby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Ann - I did quite a bit of research into mycobacteria. The best known researcher in the US is Garth Nicholson MD... you can google his name and get loads of information. I did the test which was negative, but I remain convinced that in some individuals, it can be an issue. There are also other GI considerations that influence afib. If you go to the Conference Room and check Session #63, basedby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Rick - If you look at the link that shows the path of the vagus nerve it becomes understandable how an irritation of the vagus can be associated with afib. I not only had "some" improvement with diaphragm adjustment, I had complete resolution of daily afib that was lasting often over 24 hours with sometimes only 4 hours NSR and than back into AF again. Once I began the diaphragm adjusby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Barb - picking up on your comment... I eat whole grains... (gluten) and low fat organic milk... still casein protein... both can be bothersome and are not included on the Paleo diet by which afibbers seem to have success - attested to in CR #61. Snacks don't have to be unhealthy. It's still about choices. Don't go by Hans' and my experience because we seem to be in the minby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
James - yes... stress is a trigger. Pain is stress. You should have the abcess taken care of - which will typically be a round of antibiotics and a root canal treatment and or extraction. Don't let it go long as the same blood that circulates through the tooth circulates through your whole body and you can end up with kidney infections and worse. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Absolutely true, Joyce. Eating regularly is important to avoid hypoglycemia and as you say, the adrenaline surge that may jump start afib.by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Barb - it's really very easy. Avoid packaged food and therefore hidden or labeled chemicals and preservatives. Eat whole foods - cooked as plainly as possible unless you prepared the sauces from scratch at home and know what the ingredients are. When eating out... have salads with grilled fish or chicken and ask for olive oil and balsamic vinegar or lemon wedges to avoid the chemicalsby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Roger - in time it will normalize. It's very common to have an elevated pulse post ablation. Mine ran about 10 points higher for about six months. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Greg - I agree - others have indicated some phrenic nerve damage or at least irritation after ablation. That's a reasonable explanation. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Cyndie - Magnesium is a vasodilator meaning it relaxes blood vessels and allows better blood flow, so flushing may be a side effect for you. You could consider taking all the magnesium during the day and early evening rather than some at bedtime to see if that allows you to sleep more comfortably. It's really a good thing that your circulation is improving so try to work with it by varyinby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Bringing this thread forward again... <> On the osteoporosis prevention topic, the more one can buffer the system and remain alkaline, the better chance one has to avoid osteoporosis. Found a quote while looking for references to potassium citrate as a good buffer: Life is a struggle, not against sin, not against the Money Power, not against malicious animal magnetism, but against hydrogen iby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Dick - I dont recall how I found that article. Ive cannibalized a few key statements from a study intended to show that statins reduce both inflammation and renin angiotensin which in turn, then reduce the incidence of remodeling and fibrosis as they relate to AF recurrence after ablation. Atrial scarring is one of the roadblocks for ablation success as stated by Dr. Natale. I was curiouby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Howie - we can always count on you for comic relief! Thanks for the chuckle. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Wil - you are the exception along with a few others who have reported similar experiences....however, the majority of afibbers do get along very well with magnesium and definitely need to keep daily intake levels optimal for their biochemistry. There is plenty of literature stating that magnesium deficiency has everything to do with keeping the heart in normal rhythm....just as there is literby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM