Hello Dale - Regarding the comment about Agent Orange and afib - since it is a toxin, anything is possible when it comes to provoking an afib event. If you do a google for Russell Blaylock agent orange, you may turn up something that helps make the connection.... Since agent orange is dioxin and we now know that that chemical is very disruptive to the nervous system, it seems logical that arrhby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Tom - identify what's in the "lite" version insofar as artificial sweetener. We don't recommend afibbers using any artificial sweeteners. Otherwise, it looks good. Just keep in mind that for some individuals, they need more magnesium inside cells and functional before they can increase potassium to any great extent, otherwise, it can make afib worse instead of better. Thby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Sandy - I've been told the whole reason to take any form of niacin at bedtime is because cholestrol production is highest at night and that's when niacin should be working. Has anyone mentioned anything similar to you? I also see instructions to take with a small amount of food. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Lon - I think the difference is that not all cardiologists are rhythm specialists. The real experts are the EPs. Many cardiologists do not understand or even try to get up to speed with the intracacies of arrhythmias. I had saw three different cardiolgists who came highly recommended but when I look back in hindsight, they just didn't understand AF. That became apparent to me afterby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
It's my understanding after hearing discussions at the AF Summit here Cleveland, that the reason they worry about silent afib is just that...it is silent and the patient doesn't know or feel it. Therefore, it could go on long enough to create the clotting problem and place the patient at risk. Having had afib that is very symptomatic, I find it difficult to imagine one could have AF tby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Ray - I'm not surprised that the EP didn't think supplements would help. Most aren't at all educated as to the nutritional value when it comes to heart cells support - especially about electrolytes - although they should be. You have to decide if you want to prove to yourself if supplements can make a differerence in your biochemistry. Most everyone is deficient in magnesium -by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Off LAF topic but still interesting reading:by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Mark - that's great. The products here are just artificially colored junk with the exception of Low Sodium V8 and that's only good because they added potassium chloride...which you could do on your own without the juice... except KCl is irritating to the stomach, we we recommend potassium gluconate. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
George - Increase your potassium... if you don't like taking so many tablets at one dose, then get the bulk powder - Potassium gluconate by NOW brands... right here on Hans webvitamin site. 1 teaspoon delivers 540 mg. Many people who have had arrhythmia longer than your couple of years have managed to reverse it either completely or down to a level that is livable. There are also peoplby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Lon - some years ago, it was suggested when we signed off, we include age and afib tendency... ie, Jackie/71/vagal/ablated It would be easy to add one more thing Jackie/71/LAF/vagal/ablated-03 I think your observation is valid and probably is confusing to people who are just LAFers but become confused by the input from those who have other conditions. Actually... a great way to do it is aby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Wil and all - I'm going from memory.... I can't exactly remembeer when Dr. Natale joined the clinic.... probably at least 10 years ago. Dr. Saliba joined in 1999. Dr. Tchou was already there in the arrhythmia department - his stats say he joined in '94. I became acquainted with Dr. Natale's track record two ways... one was a full-page article in the Cleveland Plain Dealeby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Dewey - I agree with Peggy that perhaps a switch to magnesium glycinate would be appropriate since you can get up to higher doses without the bowel intolerance issue. You should be consuming at least 600 mg a day - and more if you can tolerate it. Most of us can go up to 1000 mg. of the mag glycinate. The idea is to saturate the cells with magnesium so they stay saturated even with the dailby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi BillD - nice to see you back again. I'm wondering what the response might be from both the cardiologist and the EP about the risks of allowing atrial enlargement to occur. Long term, it's my understanding that atrial enlargement should be avoided as it leads to other heart issues including leaky valves. I can't recall - how many cardioversions have you had in the past? Whenby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Emmie - glad all is well (mostly) for you. Rest up. Best regards, Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Maureen - I agree - go for the cardioversion as long as there are no clots. Good luck. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Erick - the thought about taking the amino acid taurine is not to take with meals because of competition with other amino acids from the meal. That said, however, most of us take an ample dose along with meals just to avoid the potential of stomach upset....which sometimes can happen with taurine. I've been taking it with meals for over 4 years and it's working well that way for me.by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
SusanR - One thing we probably never will learn for sure is the whole story. We can only speculate but from what I've read in the past about the dealings of the CEO, I'd say the conflict lies there and it's most likely not solely about the contract, but that's the vehicle used as the smokescreen. The Clinic knew all along what Dr. Natale was doing....it's not like he wby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Diana - if you have no blood glucose handling issues whatsoever, a banana would be fine - one a day as long as you eat it with nuts or some protein to slow down the glucose from entering the blood stream too fast. Actually, the less sugary foods and fruits the better as you will preserve potassium stores, since eating sugary things requires potassium in the production of insulin... so you loseby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Tom - I agree with William. Look into the use of Coenzyme Q10 and ribose as well. Start with a search on this forum for both terms and branch out to a google search. Use Coenzyme Q10 Langsjoen as an accurate source for understanding why CoQ is important for heart energy. So is ribose. Ask questions. We are here to help guide you. The paleo diet is excellent as it eliminates grains which isby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
What's the form of super mag? magnesium oxide? citrate? aspartate? glycinate? other? Depending on the form, the amount you take may be insufficient due to absorbability. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Ray - love that. Reminds me of my DDS employer... he would tell the kids... "ignore your teeth, and they will go away." Good health is not guaranteed; we have to work to maintain the gift we were born with. Jby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Tom - I think the quick fix goes even more deeply to why people are reluctant to go to the lengths successful people have because it is 1) a commitment 2) requires thought and planning 3) discipline - above all discipline 4) habit.... it's a way of life and horrors....5) change. Oh, the whining over change. The medical model of today is drugs and surgery. This is fine if there is no alby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Tom - It's my own opinion that many of those who were successful in abating afib either completely or reducing it to seldom, are no longer posting...no longer feel the need to post here. After you've said all you have to say on the topic, what's left? Those that have more complicated situations, or aren't following dietary guidelines or are still flirting with triggers willby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Since recommending ribose on the BB, I've had several afibbers write me to say that after including it in their regimen, they have been able to remain afib free for longer periods of time and recover faster from events. I found using it recently with my breakthroughs, that I didn't have that awful washed out, draining feeling... of course, my events were short. Dr. Teitelbaum indicateby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Dewey - I've contributed several ribose posts you should read. The standard dose is 1 teaspoon of the Bioenergy patented powder twice a day. You could use it at the onset of afib as I just mentioned in the post to Tom. Beware you need to read the labels and buy a product that lists the patents on the label as it would be easy to dilute or doctor this product and since it's a bitby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Ritze - An interim is a temporary pause in a line of succession or event. It is frequently used as an appositive noun, in which case it serves as an adjective meaning "in between," "transitional," or "temporary." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interim There can never be a true replacement for Dr. Natale at the CCF. They can get another department head or section head aby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Tom - Try EmerGenC by Alacer - but use the product without artificial sweeteners - I believe those are called "lite" - the regular is sweetened with fructose, which isn't ideal, but not as bad as a chemical sweetener. I had success in converting once in a while with this...and in hindsight, it was probably due to the nice balance of electrolytes in the packet, but there is notby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Peter - I can only share my thyroid hormone experience. My thyroid function runs toward hypo and I've been on Armour thyroid for a number of years but in low dose. I've never had to use more than 45 mg. to achieve a low level of TSH and to balance the Free T3 and T4 in proportion. I was told, though, after my ablation that I might have to cut back on thyroid hormone if there was afib or more oby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Judy - hang on - You won't be disappointed when you finally connect. He's worth following anywhere. Dr. Natale gave me back my life and I am very grateful. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
John - there is another point often not emphasized when considering where to have an ablation. I've lived in a suburb of Cleveland all my life and anyone with a heart problem will typically go to the Clinic, although there are other hospitals. One of my friends was considering an angioplasty procedure at another local hospital as a matter of convenience rather than drive into the cityby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM