As mentioned in Conference Room Sessions 39 and 40 - nosebleeds are one of the side effects of taking nattokinase and aspirin and if your blood is already becoming thinner by the use of warfarin, it's small wonder there was a problem. Green Tea contains vitamin K and will make it harder for the INR to reach the proper level. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Nick - - bloating and Candida; bloating and food sensitivity or allergy; bloating and gluten sensitivity; bloating and casein sensitivity; bloating and lactose intolerance all - in addition to undigested food. Good luck with your experiment. Keep us posted. If you think it's Candida (by process of elimination), it's just as easy to do a round or two of using the product Candex - wby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
S.R. Smith - I have to agree with Marian - many people are not ready for ablation nor should they be without being armed with all the facts and having tried some preventive measures as well. Many new readers come here as their very first search after an afib diagnosis and they need some encouragement, support and reassurances that they aren't the only ones who are experiencing afib. It&by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Bill - if you ever need a second opinion, I'd highly recommend consulting with Atul Verma, M.D., F.R.C.P.C., Staff Electrophysiologist Southlake Regional Health Center Staff Electrophysiologist University of Toronto, Suite 105-712. Davis Drive, Newmarket, Ontario L3Y 8C3, Canada. Fax: (905) 953-0046; I heard him speak at the AF Summit back in the Fall of '05 and was very impressedby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Since warfarin works on one anti-clotting mechanism, aspirin on another and nattokinase on yet another - my concern would be that the blood could become too thin from one or all pathways and the patient could be in trouble with a bleed that may not be easily stopped. I have no data to support that; it's just common sense that you can get the blood too thin. When I did the conference roby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
My two cents as well, Kagey - Most likely, anywhere the Standard American Diet (SAD) has permeated a culture, it's well known that the prevalence of degenerative diseases of all types increases. I think it has a great deal to do with the intake of commercialized foods versus whole foods cooked from scratch without the pervasive additives and preservatives and, of course, the overuse ofby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Sorry - I meant to comment. It is not recommended without supervision of a physician who has knowledge of nattokinase dosing and these are scarce. The only positive thing I see here with "Real" is with all that anti-clotting chemistry going on, chances of throwing a clot with the cardioversion are minimized. That could be a good thing, but I worry about the combination especiallyby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Shaun - I agree with Barbara, pericarditis bears watching and you should consult with your EP. If it worsens, you will be very uncomfortable and quite unhappy, as well. You may need to be taking something to reduce the inflammation. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
If there were no call for it, I doubt if Dr. Carlo Pappone would be so involved in developing the procedure there in Milan, Italy. He's considered both a pioneer and one of the top EPs in the world.by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Mary Ann - Dr. Natale is worth the wait but there are several others at the CCF that I wouldn't hesitate to see either if Dr. Natale were no longer available. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Jude - I would be highly suspect of the GB influence. Everyone acts a bit differently, but I have known several people with similar symptoms to yours and it turned out to be the GB and the give-away in your case was the fatty meal issue. Typically that sets it off. Also - it often is difficult for some people to break down dietary fat and this is where a good digestive enzyme works wonderby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Dr. Ralph Holsworth, who is the nattokinase expert, does not recommend taking nattokinase with aspirin. The dose of the purified and accepted brands of NK identified as NSK-SD - is 6000 FU for active afib and if you only have afib a few times a year, then 4000 FU. It's important to use a brand that is assayed to be free of all impurities (meaning vitamin K2) as a product that still contby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Nick - it all depends on what is happening in your stomach. Some people think they have too much stomach acid and they really have too little so taking an antacid may help temporarily but doesn't address the core issue. Food needs stomach acid and other digestive enzymes in order to be broken down into smaller particles so the molecules can be metabolized or processed and then ultimately,by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Peter - Do you have the option of getting a second opinion about the treatments available to you? If so, I'd definitely want that. The magnesium probably will help with several of your other symptoms but you need to get rid of the Candida first so you can absorb nutrients. The candida causes bloating. Panic attacks often come from hypoglycemia so the diet you need to observe to kill Caby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Jude - Sorry to hear about your problems. One thought might be that the malic acid form of magnesium is too irritating. I realize that they always recommend magnesium malate for FM, but I only take it occasionally as I take 600 mg or more daily of the magnesium glycinate which I seem to need more than the malate now that I'm using the d-ribose. The magnesium glycinate does not depend onby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Lois - that's a great account of your procedure and I'm truly happy for your success. So glad to see you are doing so well. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Ritze - I was just looking for some clue as to if you might be experiencing hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) at that hour. Many of us have found that afib is driven by hypoglycemic events and once that is handled, the wee-hour events seem to diminish if not go away totally. When the body is low in blood glucose, eventually, it triggers a panic mode or fight or flight response and adrenaline is prby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
That's very unfortunate, Peggy. The good thing is those fragments pass through the body in a day or so.by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thanks Terry. Did anyone elaborate on why the phrenic nerve damage was a bit more prevalent? It's relatively uncommon in RAF. You are fortunate to be asymptomatic. Otherwise, it can be fairly troublesome. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Ritze - Your written English skills are excellent. Not to worry. Elaborate a bit more for me about the night-time events. Do they start immediately once you assume a reclining position, or do you wake up in afib after having been asleep for a while? Is the time always the same? Do you notice any other symptoms at the onset? When do you eat your last meal of the day? What typically isby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Same here, Marian. I took CoQ10 long before I took warfarin and when I did, I never stopped the CoQ10. It takes six hours for a dose of CoQ10 to peak in the blood so I can't see how spacing out doses etc is of much concern or even practical advice for that matter - every product and every person is different and the variables will be many. Carol - if you are worried, just don't takeby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Peter - Two issues here: 1) how is it that you know you need to increase the magnesium? 2) Propafenone has beta blocking properties. Beta blockers typically are not helpful to vagal afibbers; although you didn't seem to be having many events until recently. Was the increase in events related to a drug change - like to propafenone? I'm far from an expert on the selection of dby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Jim - Most likely since naturally occurring substances can't be patented, there will be little interest in anyone paying the megabucks it takes to do a full blown controlled study of nattokinase vs. warfarin. Big Pharma isn't interested in a natural product unless they can manipulate it into a revenue producer. As far as your dosing of nattkinase goes - if you are an active afibbeby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Emmie - You should follow your doctors advice and use the warfarin/Coumadin as he suggests. As for dosing - refer to this online publication by Dr. Holsworth... Nattokinase may prove to be a defibrinogenating enzyme that drastically decreases blood viscosity. Decreasing blood viscosity strikes at the root of arteriosclerosis and atherosclerosis as well as hypertension, peripheral vascular diby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Peggy - I can't answer the statistical question as to the % of population having amalgams, but in my 25 years in the dental world, I'll offer this. Amalgams, by far, were the most commonly used dental material, but not every person had dental restorations. Many many patients had no restorations of any type. It's not uncommon to see most every tooth from the cuspids on back to beby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Well, John - this is exactly what we reference when we say... 'you'll know when it is time for ablation".... it just gets very old and when the anxiety sets in so much that life isn't worth much because we are always planning ahead for the 'what ifs' it just makes sense to go for the ablation. I presume you have chosen wisely and have an EP with abundant experineceby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Special blessings to you, Barbara. I think it's very wise to take the extra precaution. I'll be looking forward to your report when you are back home, rested and enjoying NSR. Best to you. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
This is an interesting and brief collection of opinions on the need for and use of statins...(especially the point byDr. Seely about calcium being more of a culprit than cholesterol in causing arterial disease).by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Susan - based on what I've read over the years, 200 mg is not a 'strong' dose...and remember from my CoQ10 post based on the research of Dr. Judy - it all depends on how bioavailable that product is in your body. Some brands are better than others for absorption properties. Sorry you had to increase the stain dosage. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM