Robin - I had 20 treatments by an MD who was also a DOM. The treatments certainly relaxed me, but had no affect on my afib whatsoever. I don't regret the experience or the time/money spent, it's just that I had hoped for a 'cure.' Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Sue - I couldn't access the link but yes - who funded the study? and what was the form of magnesium and what was the dose and what were their intracellular magnesium levels before, during and after the trials....etc. and were these people with lone atrial fibrillation. There are many studies indicating results that don't really spell out anything much useful to us. As we know, itby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Pam I use a chart by the author of Alkalize or Die - Theodore Baroody.... not that the FDA is wrong - but then... are they always correct and reliable. Rice definitely is acid producing as is any grain.by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Jodi - I beg your pardon for the erroneous information.... when I wrote you initially, I just did a quick qoogle to reference that there could be any interferrence and that site I came up with first was the one with information that I confused. It was a combined product Lopressor with HTZ and I just picked up on the latter.....wrong information..... sorry... you are correct.... lopressor is metoby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Phyllis - do a google search..... policosanol coumadin..... there are many listings there and many indicate it should not be taken with coumadin (or aspirin) as it does have anti-platelet activity. Hans' vitamin shoppe has a variety of brands to offer - but you have to research the labels to determine if the source is sugar cane wax. Metagenics is one such reliable brand that comes frby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Liza - As I've mentioned before - for afibbers - that's too much supplemental calcium compared to the magnesium intake. Also - if you continue to have afib, then reconsider the L-carnitine. I couldn't take it - always gave me more afib. If you aren't already taking all of these, I suggest not introducing all at once but adding a new one every week or so; that way if youby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Adrian - thanks so much for posting this URL/list. It's a terrible thing that we're doing and being subjected to. Lynn - Thanks for this. I'm sure many of my events were precipitated by all my time spent on the golf course. The infuriating thing I recall was the course management practice of spraying while players were out there so we had to walk through the newly appliedby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Dr. Natale also said that after one goes six months afib free after an ablation the afib almost never returns; all other things being unchanged. Gordon - I love this statement!!!! Good luck with getting off all your meds. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Great News, Valerie - The only thing I'd comment on is the 800 mg. of magnesium all at once. It would be better to space it out but if you can't and you're getting along well, then no matter. Keep up the good work! Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Robin - Peas are 5.5 Corn is slightly acidic - around 3.0 and rice is 2.5 on the pH range. I'd suspect corn as the culprit as it is highly suspect in allergenic foods which can cause the reaction and it's difficult to digest unless you are a really good 'chewer.' It's also too high on the glycemic index along with rice (white) to be consumed in any amount or regulaby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
There are many studies that refute this finding. As with all studies, we need to know who funded them. If this was a drug company, then small wonder they are seeking to downplay the beneficial effects of a cheap, non-prescription natural supplement. Policosanol threatens the bottom line. From what I've read, only the policosanol derived from sugar cane wax is effective. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Jodi - I'll answer the one I know for certain. Magnesium glycinate is a chelated form - magnesium and glycine are chelated together. They are bound in such a manner that they do not break apart in the stomach and combine with food or other 'chemicals' taken at the same time but rather pass along to the small intestine where they are absorbed into the blood. Since Lopressor depby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
I recently posted that some afibbers have found hawthorne and carnitine can be too stimulating and can cause AF. I just came across an interesting study abstract reporting on randomized trials that may offer an answer as to why. In a discussion of adverse effects and interactions with conventional cardiovascular therapies, several herbs and supplements were mentioned. It says that Hawthorn aby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Pam I have to agree about your last statement... "I think doctors are needlessly fearful of malpractice litigation, since the affront in question has to be so blatant, as in amputating the wrong limb, or the death of a child from a medication error. " I think in many cases it is a protective measure regardless of the health of the patient and an obvious lower risk. The unknowns areby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Gordon - (and Phyllis, too) A few years ago, I did a post on the benefits of policosanol - cholesterol lowering natural product - safe and one that also raises HDL. You can google "policosanol significantly increases HDL" and come up with a number of studies referencing this fact including this one: From American Journal of Health-System Pharmacy Posted 06/17/2003 Joseph Peppingby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Gordon - all I have is what is referenced and the source. I imagine if you can access that study, you can find more. I do have some other resources and I'll look there to see what's said about HDL, but my recall says HDL can be raised... just as LDL can be lowered. As you know, and with any study - you have to know who funded it to determine the usefulness of the reported results.by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Liza - Fosamax is a controversial drug and one which you should study carefully before agreeing to take it. Do you have osteoporosis? Again, I'll share with you what I have on Fosamax and natural products that help promote healthy bone remodeling. Calcium supplements help only to a certain extent - it's the other minerals needed to build bone like magnesium, vitamin D, vitaminby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Todd - warts are said to be viral and can be a sign of low immune system function. I've never had warts throughout my AF history. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Liza - on the soy comment - This came from Dr. Mercola's website... Soy Protein Diet Increases Lipoprotein (A) Concentrations Compared with Casein Diet It's known that dietary substitution of soy protein for casein decreases LDL- and increases HDL-cholesterol levels. Danish researchers have now discovered, however, that soy protein appears to increase lipoprotein (a) levels, whicby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Liza - In your list, you mention taking a multi and also calcium/magnesium. Magnesium is fine and important, but many of us have found that calcium is excitatory to heart cells and that supplemental calcium should be avoided. Check the quantity you take in. It should be at least equal to the magnesium or much less, but not more. This is not what is typically suggested in dosage ratios, but wby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Steve - while it seems that Hawthorne berry isrecommended and included in many heart support protocols and supplement formulas, it was my experience during my AF journey that Hawthorne gave me more AF. It seemed to be stimulatory. The same was true of L-Carnitine (for me) - it is frequently recommended for heart support, but it always gave me AF. On the otherhand, I used CoQ10 regularly at doby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Phyllis - yes - but I'm just about to go offline for the day. I'll be back soon with some references for you. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Liza - following is an excerpt from a post I did a few years ago called Red Flags to Beat the Odds on the topic of CVs risk markers What should your Lp(a) level be? <10 mg/dL acceptable 11-24 mg/dL borderline high >25 mg/dL very high NOTE: If your Lp (a) level is over 10 mg per deciliter (dL) of blood, you need to take action at once. Lp(a) is entirely hereditary. Studies indicate peopby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hans - works just fine for me. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Yes - it helps reduce inflammation which obviously happens with heart burns. It also helps lower the quantity of oxidized LDL which is beneficial to all hearts including newly ablated hearts, but there are non-prescription method to do this without the side effects of Lipitor. I took Lipitor after ablation, as well, but had to stop due to severe muscle pain and weakness. It isn't a goodby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
You are absolutely correct - for most people, magnesium is alkalizing but for another group, it has the effect of acidifying. The other problem in taking magnesium citrate is that it is an compound formed with citric acid and some stomachs are irritated by this acid. Magnesium glycinate will pass through the stomach and be absorbed directly in the small intestine without the need to break downby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
How about this one - anything helpful here? or this one Potassium Ions An increase in potassium causes vasodilation, a result of potassium's ability to inhibit smooth muscle contraction. === Slightly different focus.... It is these dietary guidelines for potassium that should immediately get your attention. Nutrition plays a key role by enabling cells, tissues, and organs to rby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
I (personally) would resist taking a anything remotely connected to this drug because of the severe side effects. Short term may not be bad, but long-term.... no way! I've seen too much damage in patients. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Bob - I just typed in "vascular smooth muscle potassium effects" on Google and brought out quite a number of PubMed studies on this topic and threads leading to other links. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thanks Dick and Kerry - I've already had a successful ablation from Dr. Natale...I was just trying to keep up with the information presented here. I saw several of the video/demos at the Summit. The minimally invasive appeared to be the best route; I don't like the idea of the pump unless there is other necessary surgery involved. Thanks for taking the time to be so helpful. Jaby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM