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Stef, I've posted on this over the years, here is a search on my past posts: < I make my own "magnesium oil" very inexpensively by purchasing magnesium chloride as nigari flakes (20 kg at a time!) < and adding just enough water to make a supersaturated solution. It has an oily feeling, though there is no oil in it. Here is a link describing how to apply epsom saltby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Yes it is effective. Topical is more hassle, but it also won't cause loose stools. There are posts in the archive on topical mag with many ways to apply it. If you care & can't find, let me know & I'll locate.by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Rich, Our mantra here is to get an ablation from the best as Gill and Tim note. Afib ablation is much more complex than other ablations or surgeries, for that mater. There is a large amount of "art" as well as skill. If you live outside the US, the team in Bordeax, FR (Drs. Haissaguerre & Jais) would be at the top of my list. If you live in the US or anywhere, Dr. Natale in Aby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
For more on ketosis, Rhonda Patrick interviews Dom D'agostino (both PhD's) on ketosis. I found it very interesting: < The date is 3/23/2016by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Daniel. From a T1 diabetic friend QuoteWant to know which is the most accurate blood glucose monitor available right now? Me too. It appears to be Bayer's Contour Next. This paper was shared by my friend Joan Parkes, a coauthor of this study (and employed by Bayer at the time). She is also responsible for the industry standard for measuring meter accuracy, called the Parkes Consensus Erroby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi Daniel, "While you point to supplementation and detraining as part of keeping your afib under control don't you think getting your insulin response under control could have helped as well." Not for me, I don't think so. My situation responded immediately to supplementation, before I detrained or did anything else. Doesn't mean it wouldn't help other afibbby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Lynne, "Did the Gundry diet play a role in getting your afib under control? " No, I got my afib under control with detraining, magnesium to bowel tolerance, potassium (2g/day) and taurine (4g/day). While I was a bit overweight, I was extremely fit. It was later that I started worrying about insulin resistance. I had kept the IR relatively in control with exercise. It was wheby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi Denver, Glad you continue to do well! Keep it up!! Georgeby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
I concur with Shannon's internal competition comment. My son, a Crossfitter, keeps wanting me to attend class with him. I've declined because I know I will have a tendency to push myself harder than I should. Ditto for other competitions. Skiing is normally not an issue for me. However if I let myself, I can easily get in the mindset of "how many laps can I do today." Eby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Lynn, Gundry limits us to 20g/day (a 4 oz serving) of animal protein. Because of our ApoE4 status, this is restricted to shellfish (preferred), white fish or omega3/pastured eggs. So we are not vegan, but close. Gundry has found that animal fat will spike sdLDL (small dense LDL, the most likely to oxidize). Our diet is high fat, mostly from avocados, olive oil and nuts that he allows us (by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Ryan, "2) If I am in a-fib 75% of the time, why in the world should I be staying on the prop and metro? They obviously are not working. " The metro should be for rate control, not really to keep NSR. Wonder if a higher dose of prop would work any better. Also wonder whether your afib % would be higher without it? Don't think your 225mgx2 is near the max dose. Georgeby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteDaniel I presume that you have been tested and have made gains since you first were tested. I've never done the Kraft test. I've gotten into this in a step-wise progression. It took me two years into afib, I had my first episode at 49, to get the message about chronic fitness. My afib progressed rapidly, going from 6-9 hours every couple weeks to a 2 1/2 month episode within twby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Daniel, Welcome. You are likely have vagal triggers (common with those who are fit) < . A beta blocker (B is contraindicated for those with vagal triggers as in simple terms, you run your heart too slow and the beta blocker will make that worse. If you have a rate > 100 BPM in afib for any period of time, then a BB would make sense DURING THE TIME YOU ARE IN AFIB. For a good review gby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Duke, One thought may be how "far along" your afib was before the ablation. This likely dictated the complexity of the work that needed to be done and may also presage how well the ablation "holds." For example, my childhood buddy had his index ablation with Dr. Natale in Austin about a year ago. He was fit, then 63 and ran 3 miles several days a week (former captain ofby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
"told me that AF could only be caused by alcohol use in young people. " Yep, when talking about afib with my MD friend and neighbor, he commented that "holiday heart" (i.e. excessive alcohol use) was what he typically saw in young people. During a treadmill test about a month after my first episode, I described my afib presentation to the cardio doing the exam (comesby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Alex, If you look at this paper < you'll see that the average age of onset for "Lone Afib" is ~51. From this paper, <, the median age for all afibbers in the US is 75. I'd venture to guess that a very high percentage of those whose Lone Afib came on in their 30's, 40's or 50's come from a fit, active background. From other data I've seen, afib iby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Alex, It so happens that, except for one, all the afibbers I know personally are fit and trim. The one not highly fit got his afib during surgery to repair an aortic aneurysm and was in his 80's. From Hans' data (from 10 years ago), chronically fit afibbers represented about 15% of the total afibber population. Most others get it a) from heart or lung surgery or b) have comorbidiby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Sam, There is more detail in my first link above <, but I eat off this list: < (this version does not have the ApoE4 animal fat restrictions noted). As noted in my link, I have a copy of the single ApoE4 gene. Dr. Steve Gundry, from Palm Springs (& I consult remotely), has noted that people with my gene tend to spike sdLDL (small dense LDL, most likely to oxidize as has longer lifby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Here you go Alex < age: 60, height 6'0", weight 167# (BMI 22.6). Waist = 33', Using US military correlations, body fat = 12%. Water fast 22 hours/day. Animal protein (20g/day or 4 oz serving) is limited to white fish, shellfish or omega 3/pastured eggs. Diet is approximately 80% fat calories and from non-animal sources, mostly monos. Fiber is >50g/day. Carbs are 80-90g/by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi Leo, I also eat a low carb and very modest protein diet (<= 20g/day animal protein - total protein is ~60g/day) - though very plant rich & no grains, legumes or nightshades. My fiber intake is >50g/day. For whatever reason, previously if I dropped my mag intake at all - even a couple of hundred mg/day (a rounding error in the amount I take) - I'd get fairly constipated. Thby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Leo, In the for what it is worth category, found this regarding BNP and D-Ribose < How well is your rate controlled? All the searches correlated BNP & heart failure. To me this might indicate a poorly controlled rate. Since D-Ribose is a fuel, I wonder if ketones, either from medium chain triglycerides, ketogenic diet or exogenous ketones (like keto-os might help. Ketone arby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thanks Jackie! One more thing, to limit the "U" shaped benefit of exercise, I do everything, including HIIT Tabatas breathing through my nose. This is most difficult for the Tabatas.by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
I think the tag line "Botox may cure atrial fibrillation" is perhaps overstated. As the study is reported, I would rephrase it to say "Botox injection at the time of CABG may prevent atrial fibrillation caused by the surgery." Many times CABG and other surgery in the heart area cause afib due to the inflammation of the procedure. The Botox may prevent the afib from happeniby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
I can relate to Wolfpack not wanting to balloon. It took me two years into afib to get it through my thick skull that competing in high-altitude (topping out > 14,000') races was not a good idea for my afib. Hence I detrained. My weight started creeping up. I'd been fit but heavy ever since competing in American Football in college. I decided to get a glucometer and started checby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Propafenone has beta blocking characteristics. For those with vagal triggers, this is not helpful < (or chronic beta blockers in general). I've used flec on demand (to convert to NSR) for over 11 years without side effects. This has normally been very infrequent. I've used it once in 33 months. There was a period when I was unknowingly overconsuming calcium that I used it mby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
" I went from NSR to nightly AF in just a couple of months! That really got my attention! " I went from NSR to 6-9 hour episodes every 10-14 days and then to a 2 1/2 month episode starting two months from the beginning of my afib. Fortunately I was able to halt that progression...by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Full paper < My take is exercise is good for plumbing but not so good for the electrical system. I take care of the plumbing with keto diet and fasting. I try to limit myself so I don't screw up my electrical system any more than it already is (by crossing the imaginary line). So far so good....by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteJeff I'm thinking I had a case of vagally-mediated AF that was probably exacerbated by exercise, poor diet and intra-cellular electrolyte depletion. Sounds spot on. I came to afib via chronic fitness - vagally mediated. i've had it for nearly 12 years, but have been fortunate to be able to keep it mostly in the box via electrolytes (primarily magnesium to bowel tolerance), soby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM