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Maryann, LSV8 is just the veggie juice spiked with potassium chloride. You could make your own from any veggie juice you tolerate and a "no salt" you get at the store. An example is here: < If you look at the nutrition facts, you'll see there is 650 mg potassium chloride per 1/4 tsp. I looked up LSV8, it has 700 mg in 5.5 fluid oz. You could adjust how much you put inby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Clay, I'm kind of in your position. I've kept afib mostly at bay (using magnesium to bowel tolerance, potassium, taurine plus on-demand flec when the electrolytes failed) for around 11 1/2 years - following a 2 1/2 month episode in the first 4 months of my afib career. Four years ago, my then wife & I separated. My afib became much more frequent. The worst was 4 episodes inby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Nancy, I don't think there is a consensus. A lot of afibbers have co-morbidities: hypertension, insulin resistance & etc. If this is true in his case, a diet to get rid of those makes sense (and for overall health). Cheers, Georgeby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Shannon, He specifically said any modified citrus pectin would work and to buy on price. He said he's seen good results clinically and it helps with arterial flexibility, too. Something about the gut bugs and signaling. Georgeby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Interestingly, Galectin 3 is one of the markers our doc, Steve Gundry, tests for. My wife and I were both slightly elevated and he prescribed modified citrus pectin - 2.4g/day - for it. Said the modified citrus pectin was an excellent prebiotic for feeding good gut bugs. Georgeby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Stephen, Several (6 or7) years ago, chelation with DMSA was one of the paths I went down, trying to chase everything I could in my anti-afib quest. Can't say it made a difference plus or minus. I'd certainly tread lightly if you think the arrhythmia you experienced is related to the DMSA. Good luck! George {edit} I eat a prescribed near raw vegan diet (no grains, legumeby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
< Scientists at Wake Forest Baptist Medical Center have found that a daily dose of beetroot juice significantly improved exercise endurance and blood pressure in elderly patients with heart failure with preserved ejection fraction (HFPEF). Exercise intolerance -- shortness of breath and fatigue with normal amounts of exertion -- is the primary symptom of HFPEF and is due partly to non-caby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi Peggy, Hmm, when I talked to my primary care doc when I first had afib and an inkling that low potassium might be an issue, he asked why all of his patients who were on diuretics that lowered their K+ didn't have afib. I responded they must not have the right genes. In any case, I'm wondering if the low K+ might be due to diuretics (though extra K+ is usually prescribed) as diurby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Barb, How sensitive were you prior to your ablation to alcohol? Some are very sensitive and it is a big trigger, others are not. I still have a glass or two of wine now and then. However, alcohol has never been a trigger for me (I'm a non ablatee). If alcohol had been a trigger before, I probably wouldn't press the issue. I recall 8 or 9 years ago, a guy from Wales wroteby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Here is my review: I've had afib since July '04. I found this book within a month of my first episode. It was a huge blessing. I was referred to a highly regarded cardio. I'd read this book and I expected us to be on the same page. My episodes tend to have a vagal trigger. I'd learned from the book that digoxin was not indicated for those with vagal triggers ("Whateverby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Colin, Though I brought these to the forums attention years ago, I've never gotten one. I certainly would not test near in time to putting anything in my mouth (food, toothpaste or even water), to get the best sample. Pat Chambers' Diurnal Rhythm of Potassium <, might be of interest. If you have "risk" times for going into afib, I'd sample around those timesby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Mike, Good to see you still posting and that your condition remains staus quo. I've followed your story for many years here... Cheers, Georgeby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Ryan, "I was told that without ablation, his job was to keep me off a pace maker for as many years as possible. " This is BS. There is a procedure where they destroy the AV node (AV node ablation) and then put you on a pacemaker, for the rest of your life. This is rarely done anymore. For one thing you now need a pacemaker to stay alive... Essentially, afib can be fatal in tby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi Ryan, Not sure the cardios will tell you. This was a flag for me: "My resting heart rate has always been in the 40's" A lot of guys who regularly exercise and have afib have a "vagal" trigger for afib < < The arial effective refractory period (AERP){more here: <} is essentially the "reset" time for the pacing cells in the atria. The sby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Ryan, Any possibility of WPW (wolff parkinson white) syndrome, too. WPW's are prone to afib but they also have multiple pathways through the AV node which can lead to the high rates. Also, you may want to tone back the "very fit and athletically active my entire life" part. Good for the heart plumbing but not for the electrical circuits. I know, chronic fitness was my ticby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Congratulations!!! Georgeby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteJackie With our own ‘poster boy example’ as in GeorgeN’s initial story, one can see that for him, tackling the afib problem with high dosing of magnesium, along with diet and other strategies has paid big dividends in that he was able to reverse the Afib trend and undoubtedly, with time, also the fibrosis or at least enough to lessen conduction interferences. I don't know what I'by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Apache, I don't think most want to undergo a procedure unless they have an effect on life. They have been talked about here, but years ago and not frequently. From memory, Hans had 8,000-10,000 or more per day. He used his "PAC Tamer" formulation < and didn't bother with another ablation. There are 86,400 seconds in a day so this is pretty frequent, especially since thby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
I echo what Murray said. Find the absolute best EP you can. If you are in the US, Natale in Austin, TX. Natale has done more ablations than anybody else in the world (>8,000). If you are outside the US, my choice would be the team in Bordeaux. They are arguably the #1 & #2 in the world. A lot of their patient load is related fixing problems caused by others. For afib ablation, thby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Good suggestions Shannon! One AliveCor suggestion for any that use it. I always wet (lick) my fingers before I put them on the contacts. I also sit very quietly while I monitor. This makes sure I get the best possible reading from the device. I've also used a Polar strap for over 11 years and this wetting and making sure I have an excellent connection is a carryover from my Polar experby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Colin, You are correct. My first 4 months of know afib, my burden was 57% - that included a 2 1/2 month episode which was 100% of the time. Fortunately things have been much better since... Georgeby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Peggy, Great to hear from you! All the best! Georgeby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hey Alex, I've learned that it is very difficult to out exercise your mouth... Hence exercise is a great add on, but diet is 80-90% of the problem. In my case, chronic fitness was my ticket to afib. So the question to myself is always, "how much is too much." The answer for me is that I avoid steady state cardio training and minimize activities that mimic this. I focus on boby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
As I read it AF burden ≥10%. Result Group 1 demonstrated significant deterioration in total LA strain (26.3% ± 1.2% to 21.7% ± 1.2%, P < .05) and increases in Pmax (132 ± 3 ms to 138 ± 3 ms, P < .05) and Pdis (37 ± 2 ms to 42 ± 2 ms, P < .05). AF burden ≥10% was specifically associated with decline in strain and with P-wave prolongation. Conversely, group 2 manifest improvement inby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Ten or so years ago, a litigating lawyer I'd used (he was in his 40's) took disability for afib. He'd had undetected high rate afib for a while and his ejection fraction had dropped quite low (20, if I recall). They got his heart fairly stable, but I think the assumption was that the stress of his legal job would trigger it again, hence the disability. I really haven't hadby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
I wrote about a friend in CR73 < . She is a WPW ablatee. Wolff-Parkinson-White syndrome is where there are multiple pathways through the AV node. The ablation destroys all but the "normal" one. WPW people can have different rhythms and are also at much higher risk for afib. This is germane because my friend noticed the prevalence of PAC's during heavy exercise when sheby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
This guy took propantheline bromide. < Which is prescription and anticholinergic. At one time, I was able to get a script for it, got it filled, but I never used it. The pharmacy had to get it from the warehouse as it was not widely prescribed. I subsequently found out I'm positive for the ApoE4 genotype. This means a higher risk for dementia. Anticholinergics are contraindicated foby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
He's very fit and healthy and his afib is infrequent. He just wanted PIP to cut the episodes short. He was pretty frustrated...by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Steve, Have a local friend who's had afib for 12 years. He's never taken meds, but last episode lasted 10? days. Couldn't get his EP to prescribe. He went to a different one who had no problem prescribing & without hospital. The new guy did want him to come in for an ECG after first use. So I'm not surprised, but it still is awful. Georgeby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM