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"I firmly believe that magnesium will lower the Heart Rate." My heart rate has been in the 50's for years. This includes before afib and before taking (what is now) 4g/day of magnesium. Subsequent to starting the high dose mag, my heart rate is unchanged. If anything it is up a few beats a minute as I no longer do endurance training, though am still very active. Georgeby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Ted, So I don't meet your criteria, but I'm pretty close. However an example from early in my afib career might serve as an answer. I started with afib every 10-14 days for 6-9 hours. This lasted for two months. I then had an episode that did not convert. This lasted for 2 1/2 months. I converted it with 300 mg flec. I'd made a deal with the EP that he'd prescribe onby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Monty said his Bordeaux ablation cost €15,000 which worked out to $23,000CAD < I'm guessing the EP's are on salary.by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hey Ron, Here is a thought from left field. "I am up to 3000ml on the incentive spirometer" Your deep breathing on the spirometer could be causing you to "overbreathe" and deplete CO2. I'm not saying not to do the exercise, but you may want to follow up with Buteyko type breathing exercises after you practice on the spirometer, to increase CO2. As noted here < ,by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Early in my exploration of options for my afib, I had an Exatest (11 years ag). I was not surprised it showed a mag level at the very bottom of normal. I've not repeated the test as, in my mind, needing to consume 4 or more g/day of mag for bowel tolerance is indicative of not significantly repleting intracellular magnesium. Carolyn Dean recommends using the RBC mag test as an imperfect,by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
I self diagnosed myself with mild apnea using a tachogram from my Polar monitor per this Power Point presentation: < (Polar tachogram described in more detail here: < ) A longer description of my self diagnosis is here: < Overbreathing during sleep and all the time is an issue with apnea. To deal with this I now pay attention to always breathing through my nose, including during sby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
I agree with Shannon about getting an expert interpretation. For the do it yourselfer, here are some thoughts. If you get a good connection, then the AliveCor ECG should be good (see my prior post). I don't know about how well the automated interpretation works. I've had a Polar beat-to-beat recording heart rate monitor for nearly 11 years. This monitor has an ECG chest strap tby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
" I spent some time looking at my options but having decided who to entrust I try to step back and go with what they suggest. " I concur with Les, your job is to pick the right EP and then trust him to do his job. If you have a question about the equipment discuss it with EP, but don't expect to tell him what to use.by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Stephen, I take large quantities of mag (4g/day) to keep me in rhythm, however I use flec to convert. There was an article about 7 years ago (& posted here) about using magnesium citrate fluid (1.7 g Mg++) - like you buy at the pharmacy for bowel cleanout for this purpose. The thought being that the liquid would get in the system quicker. Many times I'll also take extra mag when Iby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Barb, A couple of thoughts regarding getting a good connection. I use my device unattached to the iPhone case, so I can get a the best connection. I also always wet my fingers before I hold the electrodes (in my case with saliva). You don't have to trust their interpretation either. You can print out the PDF and look at it. I assume the PVC's made the r to r distance variable &amby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Not a poster, but I referred my cousin in Ft. Lauderdale, FL to Dr. Pinski (trained under Natale at CC) at Cleveland Clinic Weston, FL in 2007. My action was taken after a local EP wanted to do only a flutter ablation and "see if that fixed the afib, too." I suggested a second opinion with Pinski was in order. Pinski ablated both the afib & the flutter & my cousin's beenby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Steve is one: < Gill is another - Her Bordeax ablation was January, 2003 < PC (Pat Chambers MD) - had Bordeaux ablations, the first in Summer 2005 and the second in 08 (? - from memory). I recently contacted him 6 months ago or so & he was doing well. Don't have a post on his ablations, but here are some threads with typical (wonderful, from my perspective) posts from Pat: &by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Smack, Glad your heart is doing very well! Sorry to hear about the other issues. Good luck solving these! Georgeby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Ted, For some reason, your leads are physically reversed. As I previously noted, I can reverse my leads in my case. Not sure about your model or how your case connects to your phone. Are you sure you didn't attach it upside down? See P1 < Georgeby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
AF, I'm very sure the 2008 person is a different Fran. I believe this is prior to the latest version of the Phorum software. The prior version did not require registration so you could easily have multiple people with the same name. Georgeby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Ted, As I have an Otterbox rugged case for my iPhone, when I got my AliveCor (18 months ago? - 2nd generation), I popped it out of the phone case it came it and use it separate from the iPhone. On my version, you can take the device out of its case and reverse it. Perhaps you can try this. What is recorded is a function of which side of the body is on which lead of the AliveCor. Georby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Carole, Shannon and other alums can give you the contact info. My Houston buddy had an appointment around Dec 30 2014 and his ablation on March 5 2015. I think Natale has done over 8,000 ablations at this time (I think it is the most in the world). Some who come from far distances can have an appointment a day or so (or even same day in some cases) before the ablation. I believe youby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
My best friend from childhood lives in Houston. When we talked last year I insisted he go see Dr. Natale in Austin (in my opinion, the best afib ablation EP in the world). He had an ablation March 5. He has thanked me profusely many times for insisting he go to Austin and can't say enough good things about Natale and his whole team. People fly in from all over the world to see Natale, yoby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi Dean, Are you still consuming natto food? How is that going? Cheers, Georgeby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Mørk, That is a representative sample from back then. Peggy, of course, still posts regularly. Mike F does also, though I think he changed his "handle" when we had to register a few years ago. Pam (if it is the right one) is a cardiac nurse who ended up with a tamponade and a ripped valve by a "name" EP at a name facility in the east (nobody we suggest here). The damagby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Natale is the top choice, worldwide. He's in Austin, San Francisco and San Diego. < Certainly worth a plane flight! He has alums here from all three locales, they can give you contact info.by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Josiah, I'm pretty sure Natale takes Medicare, you might call Schweikert's office and confirm he doesn't take it. For absolute private pay, I think Bourdeax is most likely your lowest cost, best option. Georgeby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
I was here during the later part of Fran's tenure here. She also had many posts in the missing 4th forum. Fran is a very smart woman. She lives in the UK and if you read her story, sounds like she had some very high rate afib - misdiagnosed as epilepsy. I'm sure very frustrating for her! As you can see from the quote below, she was finally diagnosed with afib using a Holter. Quoby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
"Am I right that this sort of fell by the way-side in the last 3 years, and no more posts are being tagged "The List"? I am wondering if Session 61 should have been left open indefinitely, and the requirements to post maybe more stringent like 6 months of NSR." "Secondly was there alot more posters back then? Was the board more active with more users, to get that activby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
So if somebody wants to mine the archives for Peggy's work, go to advance search < Use search words: The List Click the box that says "All Words" and choose "Exact Phrase." Then go down to the bottom to the box that says "Last 30 days" and choose "All Dates" Then press "Search" =ALL&match_threads=0&match_dates=0] Page back aby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hey Ted, Have you considered PIP (on-demand) flecainide for conversion? If it worked for you like it has for me (1-2 hours to convert typically), it would cut the amount of time you spend in afib significantly. After the 2 1/2 month episode, I've converted every episode with flec. I did not want to take a chance on a 2 1/2 month episode again. The minute I realize I'm in afib,by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi Ted, Rob makes a lot of excellent points. What is your AF burden. If it is very light, then waiting might make sense. If it is not, or if it is increasing, then taking care of it, with a top level ablationist, with today's technology would be the operative thing to do. In my case, my first episode was at age 49, 11 years ago. The first couple of months I had episodes lastingby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Mike, I'm guessing Shannon means the traditional fee for service Medicare along with a Medicare Supplement Policy that insures the % that Medicare doesn't pay. Georgeby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
I've always chosen PPO insurance where you can go out of network for a higher share of the cost. HMO's are usually the most restrictive and least likely to do what you want.by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM