Here's an overview of the electrical conduction system of the heart: < Remember, were talking electrical system. What you feel in your radial (wrist, neck or other point) pulse is a result of the ventricles pumping blood. Normally, the SA node initiates a signal for the atria. This signal continues to the the AV node, which puts a delay in the signal. This delay allows the atria tby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Louise, The 300 BPM is only in the atria (you won't feel this). The ventricular rate is usually significantly less (fortunately). The ventricular rate is what you feel in your pulse. The signals come from the atria to the AV node. The AV node does not pass all the signals to the ventricles (fortunately), so the ventricular rate is less than the atrial rate. In the case of flutter, itby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Ron, I don't have a great description of how the atrial rhythms are different in afib & flutter. Here is an OK description: < From a "what you feel" perspective, the ventricular rate on afib will feel very irregular whereas the flutter will be very regular. When I've seen flutter (not in myself) on a heart rate monitor, it is even more regular than NSR. That iby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Louise, tachycardia is a rate faster than 100 BPM (normal during exercise). bradycardia is a rate less than 60 BPM (normal in someone who works out a lot). PVC is premature ventricular contraction, in other words the ventricles contract before they "should." Many normal people have some PVC's and never notice them. PAC is premature atrial contraction, the atria contracby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Jackie, Dr. S's quote, "The best diet is a balanced diet (Dr. Sinatra discusses below)… because…. too much protein increases ketosis which increases cortisol which increases insulin. " The too much protein increases ketosis, is not factual. Anybody who has played around with ketotic diets knows that too much protein inhibits ketosis. This is because excess protein gets turnby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Louise, My understanding is the atrium gets larger when in continuous afib as it is being overworked. I'm guessing Murray is trying to shrink it by staying in NSR via TIKOSYN. Georgeby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Ralph, I've experienced a susceptible state/cycle like you. In my case, I had a period of about a year where I was susceptible. I could mitigate it with ginger and/or flec, but was still susceptible - this is all on top of a constant state of high intake of mag, potassium & taurine. I finally figured out that for me, it was high intake of dietary calcium that caused the susceptibleby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
I sent my friend a transcript of the above and asked for comments. Here they are: 1. I was fitted with a custom appliance from a dentist that specializes in these things. The cost was $1800. Initially it was not comfortable, but after some getting accustomed, I could sleep with it. Recently, I ended up ordering an over-the-counter device on line ($60!) that seems to work just as well and iby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
All, Thank you for your comments. My friend knows I post here and suggested I post on his success. I'm pretty sure his dental appliance is custom, made by a dentist. My impression is that he did not have issues sleeping with the appliance and certainly, compared to the CPAP, it was a world of difference. Georgeby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi all, I was chatting with a lone afibber colleague this afternoon. He's had afib for about 9 years. He has now determined that his cause/trigger is sleep apnea. A few years in, he had a sleep study and had 23 events an hour. That is a lot. A CPAP machine was prescribed, but never really worked well (he'd wake up 7 or more times a night, sometimes the mask would be off) and heby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Ron, I was visiting with a lone afibber friend at my office. We've both had the illness for over 9 years. Anyway we chatted a bit about diet and he says he has a friend that only eats rotten meat and has for 20 years. The reason is for the enzymes and bacteria. The fellow in this video has been doing it for over 30 years and claims it cured his incurable cancer. < I understandby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Ronbn, Bananas are high glycemic, which means that even though they contain some potassium, the insulin response from their fast carbs will cause the body to excrete more potassium. Georgeby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Rosie, Quantifying, beyond what is in the epsom salt study would be hard, with out a lot of data. Here is an n=1 story. My friend said when she went home at night and took off her shoes, her toes curled under from cramping. I suggested an immediate fix with a supersaturated solution (just enough water to dissolve the crystals) of mag sulfate (epsom salt) as described here < on her feet.by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
There are links in my post in this thread to a transdermal epsom salt study. < I don't typically use transdermal, as it is much more of a hassle than oral, but I have and I have recommended to friends and it is effective. Also, there is a link to the autism group on using transdermal epsom salt. The sulfate is important for those people. I use the chloride orally and sometimes traby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi Peggy, Early in my afib career, I could exercise my way out of it. Until I had the episode where I couldn't... That was the episode that lasted 2 1/2 months (over nine years ago) and was converted by PIP flecainide. Since being out of rhythm for 2 1/2 months was sooo much fun, I've not trusted myself to convert on my own since and have used flec instead. However, I have noby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Here is a link to CR 61 that Peggy references: <by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Afhound, I think most of their nighttime data come from recording pacemakers. I suspect that many who have pacemakers are not truly "lone." Not that a lone afibber can't have nighttime afib, they certainly can. Just that I don't think that it presents a stroke risk for a true lone afibber. In my case, I wake up when I get afib in the middle of the night. Subsequent toby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Afhound, "Supplements have their place but a 30 year regimen of them to get to non-AF seems just, well, weird.. " I have to say, I've been happily "weird" for over 9 years. It hasn't been perfect, but it is pretty darn good, with as long as two years between episodes (after I had 6-9 hour episodes every 10 days and then a 2 1/2 month episode at the beginning oby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Peggy, I think it is something they do with a machine, but, in my mind what you do is a kin to it. Georgeby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi Jackie, I've traveled with potassium chloride in a "salt shaker" and had them go search for it. After a few times of that, I just put it in the bin and started putting all of my powders out of my carryon and in the bin. It just made for smoother travel. A few times, I've had them test the bottles with their chemistry set, but not too frequently. I always worried abouby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Nancy, I had a 2 1/2 month episode about 9 years ago. I've been paroxysmal since with very infrequent episodes. I don't recall anything different about my heart rate after the episode, certainly nothing that persisted very long (a month or so). There is the concept of "atrial stunning." This is that even after the atria go back to NSR, there is a time of dysfunction.by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Some people have had that here. For some reason the search doesn't pick it up. If you search on mini maze & then visually search the results, you can find some posts on the Five Box procedure. I think there are some on the second page of the listing here: < Georgeby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Iatrogenia, According to Dr. Moore (The High Blood Pressure Solution), the bicarb form of sodium does not appear to have the same BP issues as the chloride form. It is sodium bicarb in the product you linked. Georgeby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
The 80% most likely represents relatively simple cases. Dr. N and Professor Haissaguerre (mentioned by Jill) have a patient load that is weighted toward the most difficult cases and "fixes" to messes that others have performed. If you needed to get your broken arm set, we'd most likely send you to the guy 120 miles away & you'd be fine. If you had a simple afib case, liby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Jackie, I varies over time, but right now I'm taking 100 ml morning and evening. I think this works out to about 300 mg of mag from this for the day. I've taken 200 ml each but recently decided to add 50 ml of my mag chloride solution morning and evening (the MgCl2 has about 4 g mag/liter so 100 ml would be 400 mg of mag for the day from this). I'm always tinkering but myby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Sam, I take mine morning and evening, not usually with meals. I read something that suggested taking it at least an hour before meals, that stomach acid was less then and better for absorption of the bicarb. In the morning, I normally take it, with mag bicarb and mag chloride, about an hour after breakfast (not that this is ideal - it just fits my schedule. I put it in a water bottle and taby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
"Just an aside, news elsewhere says he is no longer with the Cleveland facility" In '08, or thereabouts, the Cleveland CEO declined to renew Dr. Natale's contract. Why? Because on Natale's own time, he was teaching others his skill! Of course Natale immediately had numerous offers to run centers in various locations. He selected Austin, but also operates in San Franby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Your followups and ongoing care can be local. Longstanding persistent afib is very difficult to keep in NSR, with meds or an ablation. As Shannon mentions, the number of EP's (worldwide) who do an excellent job ablating these complex cases are few and Natale is at the top of the pack. Georgeby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Sam, I use it for the exact reason you mention - more bicarb. I take about 4g of potassium/day in this form. I also use Waller Water (magnesium bicarb) concentrate for the same reason. Georgeby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Barb, I'm very very sorry. My thoughts and prayers are with you. Georgeby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM