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QuoteTodd Would nebulizing magnesium benefit AF ? That has been my thought, though oral magnesium works for me, so I never bothered.by GeorgeN - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
QuoteNotLyingAboutMyAfib George thanks again. Everyone - let's say I get back in NSR - how do I wean off Flec and Metsuc safely? Just keep proportions same and reduce? I have 25mg and 50 metsuc and 150 flecs. I've gotten pretty good at cutting pills in half/ In 2012, calcium was negatively impacting my afib. Prior to that had only used flec PIP. A cardio suggested I use iby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteCarey Why don’t you spread it out 100mg every 8 hours or 150mg every 12 hours? Because the whole idea of a PIP approach is to hit it with the biggest dose you can safely use as fast as possible. Typical instructions call for chewing the pills and swallowing with warm water as soon after the episode begins as possible. I do try to take it as soon as I notice I'm out of rhythm. Noby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteNotLyingAboutMyAfib Using as PIP in hopes of popping back into NSR. Doesn't look like it will work. Last EKG was wonky as hell. First time I used 300 mg PIP flec (15.5 years ago), I converted a 2.5 month episode. However it took 20 hours. So if you've been out of rhythm for a long while, it may take a while (EP didn't think it would work). Not saying it will work,by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteCarey No hospital in this area is allowing visitors at all. My cousin lives near Yosemite NP. His 98 year old mother in law, who has lived with him for 10 years, broke her hip. Hospital was 2 hour drive away. She went to hospital in ambulance. He drove to be with her and wasn't let in. My 32 year old son, with glioblasoma, had a seizure 12 days ago. He went to ER on ambulancby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Dr Myhill in the UK suggests nebulizing magnesium. Never did it, but your post prompted me to order one plus the Lugols solution. The Dr. B's case reports are dramatic with it.by GeorgeN - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
QuoteNotLyingAboutMyAfib One of the other top five is pyruvic acid and gives more weight that ever to a very low carb keto diet and fasting. AKA 'feed a cold - starve a virus' Here is a study on this topic with the general description. My bias - I've been keto adapted since Oct 2009 and have done lots of extended fasting (in 2017, I did nineteen consecutive five-day water fby GeorgeN - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
QuoteElizabeth George: In Florida my daughter said that they have vitamin infusion bars, you can go in and they will do an infusion of vitamin C or whatever vitamin you would want. I have never looked in my area but I am sure the availability is here as well as near you or they are done by Holistic doctors. I looked and you are correct, there are bars here. However, they are covered by ourby GeorgeN - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
QuoteElizabeth George: If you got the virus (heaven forbid), what would you go for, the drug Hydroxychloroquine, or IVs of vit. C? Maybe both, but which first? L Liz, first I think almost everyone is going to get this sooner or later. A number of people I know think they have had or are having this. They've all had relatively mild cases (none can get tested). The ones who are metby GeorgeN - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
A study of 80 patients from France using this combo: link. Pretty amazing.by GeorgeN - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
QuoteNotLyingAboutMyAfib Had first bike ride since ECV. When in AF, HR was about 75 typically. Now in NSR 61. When riding the bike in AF, HR was easy up to 145-150. Riding at the same speeds and today (an easy ride) never got above 107. Bottom line, an NSR heart is way more efficient than an AF one. Resting AF heart rate is quite individual. Having yours at 75 is a blessing for youby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuotePC, MDYour L paracasei appears to be dead. Wow, that happened fast - I updated the link for a search on the product - Klaire Labs Ther-Biotic Complete. It doesn't have the concentrated quantity that your Indian product has. Edit, here is one product that lists L paracasei first. PRO-Dental: Probiotics for Oral & Dental Health—Freshens Breath at Its Source—Top Oral Probiotic Stby GeorgeN - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
According to this article, it appears it is because of shortages of those meds. They want to limit use for the most seriously ill (and in the case of hydroxychloroquine, for people with other illnesses like lupus, that need it).by GeorgeN - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
Jackie posted about a product - Klaire Labs Ther-Biotic Complete that does contain Lactobacillus paracasei. William ("Wheat Belly") Davis, MD is a fan of some lacto bugs. He suggests making your own yogurt with them, adding prebiotic fibers (like inulin) to the mix and doing long (36 or more hour) fermentations. I've use milk with casein A2 to do this with a couple of specificby GeorgeN - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
I have no idea about the Claritin. However, here is a suggestion - a nasal rinse as shown by Dave Asprey in this video. Interestingly, in a Mercola article this morning, it states, "Like the influenza virus, coronaviruses (as a general group) incubate in your sinuses for about three days before moving down into your lungs" This is the reference he gives for this statement. Got mby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteNotLyingAboutMyAfibAFAIK there's no taking PIP flecainide if I am on MulTaq. Yes, correct - can't double dip. QuoteI have a high CAC score so Flecainide isn't the best drug even though I tried and tolerated it for a month. . Not sure if the CAC score would preclude it. In any case, not appropriate to consider till off the MulTaq.by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteNotLyingAboutMyAfib Nothing I tried was able to bring me back into NSR until getting shocked today. I would have done it much earlier but a series of bad cardiologists, insurance change, and scheduled travel delayed me getting the referral and appt. If you could get a script for on-demand (PIP or pill in pocket) metoprolol and flecainide, it might be very useful if it works for you.by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Welcome NotLyingAboutMyAfib! Could you provide some background like age, whether you exercised a lot (or not at all), hypertension, T2 diabetes or any other comorbidities. {edit} This is a summary of what I suggested to my 34 year old son in law and it is working well. I've been basically following this, with success (though my magnesium tolerance and intake is much higher than my Sby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
In this article, they note that "Azithromycin was added because it is known to be effective against complications from bacterial lung disease but also because it has been shown to be effective in the laboratory against a large number of viruses, the infectious disease specialist explained." On chloroquine, "While the mode of action against COVID-19 is not established, Prof Mayby GeorgeN - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
QuoteCarey I think those stats most likely simply reflect the fact that AF prevalence increases with age and other comorbidities. When a disease comes along that selectively kills old sick people, you're going to get a high percentage with AF because old sick people have more AF. To me afib (in this case) and many of the other comorbidities are markers for hyperinsulinemia.by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
We don't need sanitisers for virus protection after all... Why does soap work so well on the SARS-CoV-2, the coronavirus and indeed most viruses? Because it is a self-assembled nanoparticle in which the weakest link is the lipid (fatty) bilayer. "The soap dissolves the fat membrane and the virus falls apart like a house of cards and “dies”, or rather, we should say it becomes inby GeorgeN - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
Posted this also in another thread: My experience with a Plaquenil (hydroxychloroquine) script in Colorado. Won't fill it unless you've been taking on an ongoing basis. My doc friend, who lives in a small mountain town, said they are only filling for medical professionals in her town. Had no issues getting Z-pack and Losartan filled. So thanks for that, PC!by GeorgeN - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
My experience with a Plaquenil (hydroxychloroquine) script in Colorado. Won't fill it unless you've been taking on an ongoing basis. My doc friend, who lives in a small mountain town, said they are only filling for medical professionals. Had no issues getting Z-pack and Losartan filled.by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quotehwkmn05 Vit D increases ACE2 receptors in lungs-but has been shown to prevent damage by LPS (from bacteria), so it has that protective effect. BUT, C19 uses ACE2 receptor to enter and kill lung cells, so it could go either way. Sounds as though it went the good way for Aussie friend, but I would error on the side of caution without professional guidance for this protocol. Per my docby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quotehwkmn05 "500mg Zithromax twice a day to take in conjunction with Plaquenil 200mg twice a day " The stated Plaquenil (hydroxychloroquine) 200mg protocol is actually 2x this for 7 days. I would not start the Zithromax unless lymphocyte count is > 1100/microliter per PC's post. The Zithromax is an antibiotic and won't help unless you have bacterial pneumonia. Aby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
From Daisy's post here, "Each of these drugs alone can cause QT prolongation and chloroquine, hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin are on the CredibleMeds’ list of drugs known to cause TdP." Hence it is likely advisable NOT to take hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin at the same time.by GeorgeN - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
"long-term use can irreversibly impair eyesight." When I put my son on it for a completely different reason, two years ago, I researched this. The long term is doses like 500 mg/day for 4 or 5 years. My son has been on it for most of this time at 250 mg/day without issue. The dosing for treatment of liver infection caused by protozoa: Adults—1000 milligrams (mg) once a day, tby GeorgeN - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
Johan, Thanks! I'm glad this is working for you!! Quotemwcf Hi George, A question about ginger please. What does this look like to you? Hi Mike, When I tried this, I just used organic ginger spice that I got that the natural foods store. Because I'm a bit of a bull in a china shop when I do things, I recall putting a tablespoon in warm water to make a ginger "teby GeorgeN - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
QuotePC, MDAgain this gets at the notion of the importance of anti-inflammation trumping the importance of anti-viral action. I think both are important. As I've noted before (and gotten flak from some here), I'm a patient of Steven Gundry's and followed his low inflammation diet plan since 2014. He tests us for many cytokines and other inflammatory markers. In our case, we alby GeorgeN - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
Aloha PC, Thanks for posting this! Yours is the first I've seen that addresses the root cause of the major issues - the cytokine storm {edit} and pneumonia. A couple of thoughts on SpO2 monitoring from someone who lives in a cold climate and at altitude. I live at moderate altitude (5,500') and spend a lot of time at elevations up to 13,000'. SpO2 will drop with altitudeby GeorgeN - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM