Is anyone eating natto daily for its fibrinolytic/thrombolytic properties? If so, how much do you eat? Is one tablespoon daily enough to accomplish anything? Any suggestions for making it more palatable? I am concerned about the possible bleeding risks associated with nattokinase. I don't see how that would be any different or better than bleeding risks from NOAC (which I am not taking).by PoetKim - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteNotLyingAboutMyAfib Dean, I have eaten natto for the K2 MK7 but most of the research I've seen (from memory) shows that nattokinase will not survive past stomach acid and get to where it needs to be. You can buy sublingual nattokinase, in a pump spray bottle. One squirt under tongue each morning (or whenever). Bypass GI system.by PoetKim - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteDaisy If you are taking medications, note that modified citrus pectin can slow their absorption. Hi Daisy. Do you have more information on that? MCP does not have a CYP3A4 interaction that would interfere with medications - at least not the MCP sold as PectaSol-C, according to the manufacturer. Or do you mean as a soluble fiber it could reduce absorption of anything consumed at same tiby PoetKim - AFIBBERS FORUM
Wow! Thanks for all this great research and information with the links. Am going to read this closely. Am preparing to start Modified Citrus Pectin (waiting for it to arrive) with the goal of possibly reversing any atrial fibrosis that may already exist, so as to undo structural remodeling from afib that has occurred. So I am quite interested in this approach you are taking.by PoetKim - AFIBBERS FORUM
This isn't even a paper per se, but a blog post about Dr. Jose Jalife's presentation titled “Searching for the Holy Grail: Upstream Therapy to Prevent AF Progression.” Persistent AF was induced in sheep. Half were then given the Galectin-3 inhibitor Davanat. Half were given saline. The Gal-3 inhibitor: *Lessened A-Fib-induced atrial dilation *Reduced fibrosis byby PoetKim - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteNotLyingAboutMyAfib Recent studies strongly suggest that the majority of atrial fibrillation (AF) patients with diagnosed or subclinical cardiac diseases have established or even pre-existing fibrotic structural remodeling, which may lead to conduction abnormalities and reentrant activity that sustain AF. Atrial fibrosis is directly correlated with age of patients, which is mirrored by thby PoetKim - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteNotLyingAboutMyAfib I've been looking into the issues with stomach acid and ph and what happens to many supplements that we are sold and take. Far too often they are destroyed before ever getting where they will do any good. Even the enteric capsules have a set of issues in how they will respond once popped into the unknown. Ugh.... still learning. Do you think it would be betterby PoetKim - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quotesusan.d Wow! I took a look who (76) was following Dr N on Twitter. The list includes president Trump, brothers Chris and Andrew Cuomo, governor of Texas, Anderson Cooper and many others. Quite impressive! Dr. N is a celebrity!by PoetKim - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quotesusan.d Perhaps — like we all have done — google scholarly sites instead of IMHO Twitter to get answers. Or many other sites that may help by googling “afib pvi ablation scholarly articles”. Good luck. The person who made the twitter statement NLAMA quoted is cardiologist Dr. Oussama Wazni, head of electrophysiology at Cleveland Clinic. I too find it interesting that Dr. Natale seemiby PoetKim - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteGeorgeN Not Lying has more details, but there seems to be a small cadre of people where K2 can be a trigger. That being said, I've taken and do take a lot of K2 without issue. The product I take has 25 mg of MK-4, 0.5 mg of MK-7, 5 mg of K1 and 2 mg of Astaxanthin. Also Dean, who is from Australia and is a long time poster here, has kept his afib at bay since the mid-2000's wby PoetKim - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteNotLyingAboutMyAfib I know it's best used right after you pop out of NSR but since I was on MulTaq I needed that to clear and I needed to eliminate two more possible suspects - vitamin K complex and MSG (an ingredient in Aromat - a meat spice concoction that finally made my steaks taste good). Is Vitamin K complex an afib trigger? I had not heard that before. Or do you just mean Vitaby PoetKim - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thank you George. I will check the Swanson's link. I was reading this article in a medical journal about how modified citrus pectins are not all the same - molecular weight/size matters "We agree with Dr. Eliaz that MCP products are by far from standardized, and therefore one needs to be aware of multiple citrus pectin products that might not have the same effect as seen in pubby PoetKim - AFIBBERS FORUM
How many people here are using Modified Citrus Pectin as part of you AF-prevention and heart-rebuilding strategy? I have been reading about it online (thanks to this group!), and about the importance of inhibiting Galectin-3. The good MCP (EcoNugenics PectaSol-C) costs $154 (Canadian $) for a pound on Amazon. I don't usually spend that much on a supplement I have never tried before. Haveby PoetKim - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thank you Ken! That's very helpful.by PoetKim - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteKen I do take magnesium, potassium and taurine to keep ectopics at bay. May I ask you how much magnesium, potassium and taurine you take daily? And whether you dose throughout day or take it all at once? I realize it's not one-size-fits all. I won't go off and replicate your regimen without further study. But I am trying to get a handle on all this. And figuring out dosages is paby PoetKim - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuotePompon As George said. I'd add that vagal afibbers may sometimes experience afib while digesting. Quiet exercise after meal may prevent this. That's very good to know. Thanks! I am going to resume my earlier habit of an after-dinner walk. kimby PoetKim - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thanks George! That helps me start to sort out which type I might be having in various situations. kimby PoetKim - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteGeorgeN If you are mixed, then either adrenergic or vagal activities can trigger afib. Once you are in afib, it doesn't really matter how you got there. Afib is afib once you are in it. I wonder if that's entirely true. If it's vagal afib, then maybe the "cayenne" home remedy I have seen others post here would help. If it's adrenergic, then cayenne could makeby PoetKim - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thanks for the info, George. I am reading Hans's book right now. Just started it this morning. It's a great book! Will also check the afibbers link you gave for more info. Appreciated. kimby PoetKim - AFIBBERS FORUM
I am still pretty new and trying to sort things out. Is there a link or list or document somewhere listing the common triggers for vagal vs. adrenergic AF so I can try to determine my type? I am starting to get a sense of how to distinguish the two types. But I suspect someone somewhere has put it in list format. Also, if a person's AF is mixed vagal and adrenergic, is any single episodeby PoetKim - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteLaniB Does anyone have any knowledge about how electric fields, microwave or radiowaves or 5G may affect heart rhythm? Professor Martin Pall says that they can activate the voltage gated calcium channels allowing an increase of intracellular Calcium. From what I've been reading, that is not a good thing. Dr. Pall wears protective clothing on his torso. See Sharyl Atkisson from Fby PoetKim - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thanks George. I sent you a message.by PoetKim - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi. I am new to this site. My first post was about Vitamin D in the General Forum. I am a 65-year-old female in BC, Canada. I have been dealing with diagnosed occasional Afib and A-flutter and other periodic arrhythmias I can't fully identify for 5 years. I have a cardiologist. But his only solution involves a prescription pad. He is not interested in investigating or even answering releby PoetKim - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteGeorgeN Vitamin D is fat soluble, and is best consumed with other fat, say in a meal. Because it is fat soluble, D levels should persist for fairly long periods of time. Hence what you take the day or two before a blood draw, really should not impact a blood test. This statement assumes you are taking common daily doses of D, say 10,000 iu's or less. Some people take doses like 50,00by PoetKim - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
QuoteGeorgeN Our doc does not suggest we stop before testing. Though he does for.certain things, like biotin, coconut oil and alcohol ( that is for other, not D tests). Thank you George! kimby PoetKim - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
Hi. I am new to this site. First post. 65-year-old female in Canada. This site is a wealth of information. Very happy to have found it. I have been dealing with occasional Afib, and A-flutter and other periodic arrhythmias I can't fully identify for 5 years. I have a cardiologist. But his only solution involves a prescription pad. And he is not interested in investigating or even really answby PoetKim - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM