Lisa - yes - I believe that is correct. Some are short and others are lengthy procedures. Mine was 2 hrs 45 minutes. It's not uncommon for surgeons to operate for 12-15 hours so EPs also may have very long days. Certainly it can be a very long day. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Sue - be cautious about the Centrum multi vitamin.... there maybe ingredients that you'd be better not using. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
I think the most informative are his video clips which are useful to those who have trouble reading medical information and applying it. He usually belabors the point a bit too much, but for basic health education, I think they are invaluable for people just starting out with health issues and who are not health-science educated. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Mike - Sorry you experienced the predictable. Coupled with stress and all the bad dietary infractions, I'm not surprised. So... just make a little mental note about the scenario that led up to your latest experience and try not to succumb again the next time. When you deplete and unbalance those key electrolytes, AF is bound to occur. Thanks for posting this as a good reminder to allby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
jj - Yes - you're correct. Don't use the potassium in any significant quantity if you have never supplemented with magnesium. In magnesium deficient people, adding the potassium may make AF worse until you optimize the IC stores of magnesium. After you've dosed 'low and slow' for a couple weeks, you can start with small amounts...of potassium .... if you use the powdby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Marian - thanks - all I can say is WOW..... probably his lifestyle living in Hawaii for 6 months is getting pretty expensive! He used to just want to get the word out; obviously, now it's become much more than enlightenment...and of course, I certainly understand the costs involved but that sort of marketing strategy leaves me cold as well. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi Marian - That doesn't make sense. I get his online newsletter and don't buy his products. Perhaps it's just an automatic thing where they drop your name after a period of time and you have to sign on again? Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
John - quite possibly, along with the elevated temperature comes some dehydration and lack of both magnesium and potassium....critical electrolytes needed in maintaining NSR. Were you perspiring significantly? Did you have water with you and were you hydrating regularly? Do you supplement with magnesium and potassium? Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Valli - clarify: You don't now take magnesium, but you do take supplemental calcium and a calcium channel blocker? Magnesium expert, Aileen Burford-Mason, PhD says that "It's often said magnesium is nature's calcium blocker... I like to change that to say calcium channel blockers are the pharmaceutical arms to magnesium deficiency. The emphasis is on getting magnesium insidby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Margie - I'm a strong proponent of nattokinase. If you haven't visited the Conference Room to read the two sessions on Nattokinase, it's worth doing. Sessions 39 and 40. The latest study I have that's available online There is another about Nattokinase degrading amyloid plaque formations which is important preventive news for Alzheimer's disease risk Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Well, Peggy - if they are suggesting a procedure and also telling you to get off nattokinase, then perhaps you should insist on these tests to help you make up your mind about how safe it will be for you to stop the NK. If they are extremely elevated (the CRP and fibrinogen), then your risk factor is higher. If the Protime is low - meaning your blood clots quickly - even while on NK, that'by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Teri - the vitamin D and vitamin K2 MK7 help to direct calcium into the bones where it belongs and not into soft tissue so the excitatory effect would not be as apt to occur. Definitely not likely to occur unless you also take supplemental calcium in a ratio that is more than 1:1 Ca to Mg. Most directives say to take 2:1 calcium but it's found that can allow calcium to dominate and be exciby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Yes, specifically, it does happen to be the nettle leaf in the quercetin product I take for seasonal allergies in the spring. (600mg in 3 capsules). Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Rich -the glycinate form is specifically formulated not to cause bowel tolerance issues until you reach high doses. It's a chelated amino acid and the product label should reference the Albion patented process. Most poeple can easily (and slowly) work up to maximum doses around 800 or 1000 mg or more without the loose stool problem. Other forms seem to cause this symptom with much lowerby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
James - I just commented in another post that quercetin helps with allergies and should not interfere with your meds. Sometimes nettles is added to the product to improve efficacy. There are some sprays and shampoos for dogs that may cut down on your sensitivity issue as well so look into that aspect. That might be the easiest for you rather than trying to find something that won't roby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Chris - yes - the multi with the added high dose of B6 is probably the connection to your dream experiences. Jackie PS - Since you ar doing so well, I don't like to rain on your parade, but be mindful of what's in that 'super' multi. Sometimes more is not better and sometimes generic products such as what would come from Costco contain some forms of nutrients that are notby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
The difference is medico/legal liability. Pure and simple. If they don't tell you to stop the anti-coags... and you have a severe bleed, they are negligent and liable... thus the Standard of Care. The question to ask is do they think the risk/benefit ratio is skewed toward you having a severe bleed during the procedure OR is the risk really that you are at high risk for a stroke or MIby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Mark - vitamin D is known to have properties to benefit the heart as well as the immune system. Specific to benefiting afib, it also reduces inflammation. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
The most significant is the bowel tolerance issue which is easily adjusted. Taurine may lower blood pressure in some individuals... more toward just regulating to normal rather than significant lowering. Magnesium along with vitamin B6 typically serves to enhance sleep and dreaming. Perhaps just the magnesium (for you) is enough as it is definitely calming/relaxing so you are able to dream.by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Well said, Gordon. And, it's the Standard of Care to advise going off blood thinners prior to invasive procedure. Doctors who deviate from the SoC are liable. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Liz - from the MenaQ7 website: ...." Therefore, the daily requirement for vitamin K2 has to be supplemented from dietary sources, such as curd, cheeses and other fermented dairy products shown to contain vitamin K2. However, you would need to have an extremely high consumption of these foods in order to get a sufficient amount of vitamin K2. The best source of vitamin K2 is the traditionalby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thanks Lynn- should be very useful. I'll spend some time there soon. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Alexe - I don't have a formal list, although it would be easy enough to compile. Anything that tends to have the so-called blood thinning properties... such as nattokinase, ginkgo, Omega 3 fish oil, aspirin, Vitamin E ... just type in a Google search to see what comes up. I just typed in "herbals to avoid prior to surgery" and got several hits and lists. Here's one examplby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
James - thinking about your situation for future reference... and the availability locally of the magnesium glycinate form.... Metagenics does have distributors in the UK. They have the Magnesium glycinate...(called Mag Glycinate) but it's sold through healthcare professionals... physicians, nutritionists, chiropractors and other holistic type offices. It may be worth investigating to seeby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi John - Consider stopping the aspirin for a week and see what happens...this pain could be aspirin-related in that it is irritating your stomach and possibly creating some reflux symptoms or even starting an ulcer. That certainly has a pain right behind the breastbone in the area of the heart. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Antihistamines are known to have the side effects of promoting heart palpitations... which could translate to AF, so beware. Quercetin is a natural product (bioflavonoid) that helps with allergies... I don't know if you can find it locally or not. Sometimes it's combined with bromelain or nettles for increased efficacy. Some people swear by using small amounts of pure organic honeby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Okay, then... that's good news and actually, quite predictable that the extra 'shoring up' of electrolytes helps. Just continue to be very diligent. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Cynthia - I like to see the dosing of magnesium spaced out over the course of a day and evening. I especially like the dose at bedtime as it is calming/relaxing. I like 200 with each meal and then 200 at bedtime. Some people tolerate even more, so you have to fit that in at other times. The potassium can also be used at bedtime but it may initiate a bathroom break in the early morning asby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
JJ - The fear factor can be huge and I am sure just about every new afibber had similar feelings to yours when the first few events arrived. It would be only natural. The best advice I can offer is become educated. Do continual research about Lone Atrial Fibrillation. Buy Hans' book if you don't already own it. Knowledge is power and by educating yourself, you empower yourself tby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM