Steve - I agree with Peggy... add the potassium and also consider adding ribose. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Montos - email me; I have another suggestion. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Montos - yes the bioperene is known to cause stomach distress for some. Also - KAL brand has a chelated Albion process magnesium glycinate and then there are two professional grade options offered by Metagenics and Designs for Health. Both are the Albion patented process. The amino acid delivery has the best record for absorption without any need for further breakdown or risk of dissociationby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Sending you an email with suggestions. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
More support as to why watching blood viscosity levels, inflammation, hydrating well and measuring fibrinogen is important. If not on warfarin, then consider nattokinase if fibrinogen levels are at the high end of normal. Remember the saying: Churn cream, you get butter; churn blood, you form a clot. Jackie A high hemoglobin count usually suggests that you have too many red blood cells. Thiby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Peter - you asked: Are you sure that bowel tolerance is a totally reliable indicator of absorption The answer would depend on how much you were taking and how fast you were trying to replete. Too much/too fast will produce bowel intolerance and it is not an indicator of absorption or IC repletion. Quite soon, I expect to be posting some notes from a teleconference on magnesium and this absorby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thanks George - I use Celtic Salt too, but not as a source of 'trace' minerals and these are certainly 'trace'.... with less than 3% of the total. Would you estimate how much magnesium and potassium comes from your source of sea salt? I.e, if you use 1/2 teaspoon a day then how much would you gain in magnesium and potassium? Would the sodium offset the gain of potassiuby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Liz - explain to me how you get salt but not sodium chloride from Celtic salt. Also, could you list the amounts of minerals found in say... a half teaspoon of Celtic salt... ie, how much magnesium, potassium, etc. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Nick - actually oats do not contain gliaden... but the doctor I quoted in the Paleo Conference Room session stated that even the oats tested from wheat-free organic processing plants also were contaminated in the various testing done at various times throughout the year. They say probably because oats share harvesting equipment and probably trucking equipment as well and thus become contaminateby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Chris - it depends. What brand? What does the label description say for content... is it an amino acid chelated magnesium glycinate? And no other added minerals such as calcium? Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Montos - I had 20 treatments from a DOM and MD here who was highly regarded and had many successes for other ailments. It did nothing for my afib. He agreed that after 20, I should have seen improvement. Realistically, it's about the electrolyte balance inside the cells of the heart - which are also the whole body. When that balance is off, those who are prone to afib will sustain it.by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
George - good move on your part. A food sensitivity can be either from the wheat, itself, or the gluten/gliaden protein molecule. See Conference Room Session 54 from 2006 which was about why Paleo eating seems to be helpful in eliminating afib... and the wheat/gluten connection. Of interest is that the connection doesn't have to be outright celiac disease which affects about 1 in 150by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Win - you need to read everything possible to assess how adding anything might impact your system. It's your body and only you know or can sense what's happening with it. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Yet - we have to remember that the filtration and chemicals at treatment plants are not able to remove the Rx drugs that are in the recycled water from treatment and that the fluoride and chlorine is antagonistic to proper thyroid function. So, some sort of household filter that takes care of at least some of these and hopefully, also the aluminum residues added to municipal water for clarifyby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
It's the magnesium bicarbonate form that is useful here in this situation... Vheck the previous posts and links on the basis for the WW formula only we were going after the magnesium benefits rather than just the alkalizing effects from the bicarbonate. The WW does deliver as does the natural magnesium water from California - Adobe Springs/Noah's water. <;by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Lou and Walter - I just posted about my 6 year anniversary post-ablation. I also had breakthrough AF in the 4th year and one in the 5th year but none since. What turned it around completely was the protocol I wrote about... using plenty of d-ribose, carnitine, CoQ10 and optimal magnesium and potassium. You definitely need to see if my protocol helps you. Good luck... email me if you likby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Carolyn - I'm sorry you suffered a small stroke. No matter how small, it has to be a big event in your life and the concern is surely ongoing. If you do some googling about the SCD, I believe you'll note that it mostly referes to ventricular arrhythmias which can most often be the deadly type. Ablations are not considered a high risk procedure. However, one of the reasons Hansby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Nick - distilled water is not advisable to use at all for any purpose for the very reason that post by Todd points out. Devoid of minerals. Not good. As Cyndie points out, the reaction is with the carbonation in the seltzer water. Othewise, you are just adding magnesium hydroxide or MoM to water... in this case, distilled and it's no different than just taking a teaspoon of it plain.by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Carolyn - The article referenced was by the late Dr. Pacifico who was a well-known and highly-regarded electrophysiologist. This was the focus of his talk which was actually the 'closing remarks' for the session when he addressed the AF Summit in Cleveland in 05.... and it was a sobering reminder--especially for me since my ablation was two years earlier. At the time, I thought (andby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
I'm saving this thread in the comic relief file. Glad you guys have a sense of humor about triggers and also that you are enlightened about risk of pushing the triggers. Thanks for the chuckle. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hey Peter !!!! Way to go!!! I just can't say enough about ribose. If you study the literature, it just makes sense. I'm very pleased for your progress. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Justine - when you take supplemental potassium and it goes right through, it's because it is displacing sodium and when sodium leaves the body it does so via water - hence the extra trips to the bathroom. Without testing your intracellular level and the ratio of sodium to potassium, we can't know for sure, but it would seem to be a safe bet that you are imbalanced and have too much sby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Liz -it could be that you just don't have enough magnesium inside the cells yet and definitely taking theyour version - too much too fast and getting diarrhea as a result is a sure sign you are dosing too fast and the magnesium is just bypassing much of the absorption process. And also in this case, then adding potassium can worsen afib in this instance. if you are really low in magnesium.by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Win - it's in one of my responses starting on page 8; this CR session also addresses the need to control the free radical damage produced by exercise - especially with heavy exercise/endurance type etc. Be sure you read so you understand. As for the ribose info... the links are there and probably we've added more dialog on the forum as well. You should be sure to read that whole CR session asby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Win - did you take the time to read that link I provided? There is a section in that about using d-ribose to recover heart energy post heavy exertion. You are probably low or deficient in both the electrolytes magnesium and potassium as well. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Liz - that was confusing.. sorry... ionized forms are readily available but they (also) break down in the stomach so how much gets absorbed is not something that's actually known...so the experts say, better take a form (like the chelated) that doesn't dissociate in the stomach and therefore be sure that the full dose is reaching the blood stream... after that it's also anotherby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
I'm pleased for you, John. It's good to see a positive report coming from your area. Relax and treat your heart with tender loving kindness while you recover. Keep us posted on your progress. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Peggy - you can click the link that says conversion tables and note that the potassium is said to be 7.5 mg/teaspoon. I don't see any particular advantage to paying for water in this product, although just like the WW, the ionized form of magnesium is readily available. The explanations on the site are that it's better absorbed, etc. but I'm not convinced it's a better waby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Glen - inflammation can be managed nicely with the natural anti-inflammatories such as a curcumin complex, Omega 3 fish oils, boswellia, vitamin C, vitamin D3, magnesium to name a few. I've posted often about the value of ribose after ablation to help with mitochondrial energy in heart cells. Do a search here on ribose and consider trying a dose twice a day. It definitely helps with eby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Tom - you might consider upping the magnesium... I'd try another 200 mg for a couple of weeks and if that seems to sit well, then try another 200 mg. As I mentioned, drugs deplete magnesium and you take quite a bit of drugs, so you probably aren't close to optimizing your intracellular levels. Obviously, drop back to the previous dose if you experience any side effects such as bowel inby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM