Oh - I agree Peter... less is more if you can manage it. I totally agree with Sarno. However, FM is just a catchall designation for a host of other symptoms and related issues so sometimes it does take more than meditation when basic nutrients are lacking. I'm really glad you're not plaqued with FM. I know how good it feels not to have it. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
George - When you add the WW to your water bottle/canteen... are you using Colorado tap water? I know you recall Erling's comments about the fact he found the tap water to be 4:1 Ca:Mg... and he blamed that high calcium content for causing his afib. I'm just curious because if you are using tap water and adding the WW concentrate, you also have a significant amount of Ca in tby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thank you, Elizabeth - I was just commenting about the natural content of the RYR.... as an ingredient that can cause problems. Cholesterol is not the enemy. I am not a proponent of treating to regulate cholesterol, per se. Triglyciderides need to be managed, though along with oxidized LDL. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Eric - When I was first diagnosed with fibromyalgia, the drug of choice was flexeril... I used for a while (long before afib) but hated the drug and started trying other natural remedies. I avoid Rx drugs whenever possible. There are many natural muscle relaxants that help and w/o the drug side effects. Typically inflammation is involved with muscle pain so a combination of a natural anti-iby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Nick - No, I don't. I find it useful to be on the alkaline side for my biochemistry. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Mike - I agree with you wholeheartedly about Erling's ongoing and valuable contributions to the BB for all of us. In my case with the breakthrough afib and as a result of his insistence for taking the ribose and carnitine consistently, I'm so very much better than previously. He's correct, of course. It's all about ATP. Whatever one has to to to maintain what the heartby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Peter - the aha! moment.... Glad this worked as predicted. You will soon find what dose is the 'Goldilocks' dose for you. I have mostly conquered fibromyalgia via detoxing and various other nutritional support methods. If you haven't read the books by the fibromyalgia expert, Jacob Tietelbaum, MD and visited his website, you must go there. Books: From Fatigue to Fantastby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Josiah - No, not typically that form but that's a relatively high dose. For arthritis help, consider Zyflamend or Kaprex (Metagenics).... and MSM...definitely MSM. There is a newer product for arthritis relief that contains Apium graveolens (celery seed extract) and when used in high doses, it is is highly useful for arthritis pain. I have low back pain and while the Zyflamend and/oby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Montos - Howie's advice is accurate. For some reason, your biochemistry is now highly sensitive. Alcohol in some form is a typical trigger for many if not most afibbers. It depletes both magnesium and potassium. Chances are, your stores of both are low or marginally low so avoiding alcohol is a good first step. You probably set yourself up for low blood sugar with the beers prior to aby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Dan - it's great to see your approach and plan. Keep up the good work and motivation. I think you'll find if you eliminate bread (gluten) and dairy, you'll notice some definite improvement that goes right along with increased heart stability as you increase the magnesium levels. Some people respond quickly to magnesium; others take longer.... but almost everyone responds quiteby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Peter - there is no reason you can't use the citrate form of magnesium along with the glycinate or other combinations. It's just that many of us find that we are unable to maximize the magnesium from citrate because of the bowel tolerance issues. The citrate form is actually a nice form and useful for stimulating bowel function. But, the one thing you don't want is diarrhea sincby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Lynn - interesting. For me, I don't have symptoms of low potassium until I have breakthrough AF and obviously, I don't want to wait around for that symptom to surface so I intentionally take calculated doses just to be sure I'm my pH remains alkaline. Disease flourishes in acidic pH. Theodore Baroody, M.A., D.C., N.D. Ph.D. Nutrition, Diplomate Acupuncture, and author of Alkalize or Die, stateby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Just keep in mind that Red Yeast Rice still contains a natural statin with similar effects to Rx statins. When I was directed to take a statin post-ablation (which was the protocol at that time), I decided to use the RYR instead...low dose. I ended up with the same muscle weakness and pain that the regular statin caused. I'm probably a sensitive case because I must have sustained mitochby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
George - additionally, when Louise was having some recent problems, we (Erling and I) strongly suggested she get the Exatest...and while her serum potassium tested out within normal limits, her Exatest indicated she was low... when she added more potassium, her ectopics went away. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
George - maybe it wasn't in his book.... I'll have to check.... I recall Erling commenting about Moore and the fact that serum measurement isn't adequate but I my memory may be off as to the source.... could have been another reference. I thought I remembered something along the lines of if serum was low, consider that you are definitely low (IC). The other electrolyte expertsby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Todd - as Peggy mentions, it is common to have AF after heart surgery... Hope your step-father recovers quickly. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi Peter - In response.... 1. I'm sorry that was confusing.... We usually recommend afibbers who have events at night eat a protein snack at bedtime. No, it doesn't depend on acid, so you could take it on an empty stomach. I do. I just say take with meals and snacks because that's the easiest reminder to also take a Mg capsule so you don't forget. I'm was vby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Peter - I am watching this exchange with interest. I'm betting that you'll find relief in several directions here with Peggy's advice. Good luck. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Ivan - you may not need that much taurine once your magnesium becomes optimal inside your heart cells. Good luck with your experiment. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Earl - there is a wealth of info on tri's and carb connection. The easiest way to lower tri's is to cut back on any starchy carb food including any forms of sugar and alcohol along with animal fat and exercise regularly and that will drop your tri level like a rock! A friend of mine had tri levels ranging from 800 to 1000.... her Hx was that her mother died of a stroke so there couldby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Montos - welcome. I'm pleased to see that your EP is very conservative as he should be with only one event and also that he recognizes the vagal aspect to afib. However, as is to be expected, he discounts supplements, that's not at all uncommon, unfortunately. We know better....so take the time to read about how optimizing intracellular levels of magnesium and potassium along withby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Sure Tom - In some biochemistries and without optimal quality food intake... it's almost a 'no brainer.' Plus.. and it's a big plus... think about all the excitotoxins that are now in the food supply. That coupled with the other insults... it's pretty amzing that there aren't more cases of 'jock' AF. Also- another huge contributor is the stress factoby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Jack - there are many studies backing the efficacy of nutritional supplements. You just have to know where to look. You can use some highly effective, quality products by ordering from iHerb here at Hans website. Natural Factors is one such brand out of many. If you can find that one at WalMart, then I'd say, but it. Otherwise, I'd stay away from WalMart brands as they are apt toby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
You are correct, Bill - there are good health benefits from vitamin K2MK7 even if you aren't an afibber. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
James - if you aren't going to take it every day, then I'd take 4000FU at the onset of AF and another 2000FU if it goes beyond 10-12 hours. Remember, it's not intended to be used as a Pill in Pocket (or on demand) assistance, but rather works full-time to keep your blood viscosity lowered by reducing the fibrin content so it's less apt to clot during an afib event. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Josian - sources of potassium from food can safely go much higher than 6 grams.... 10 and 15 grams would not be uncommon in total vegetarian cases. However, consider that potassium from food is only as good as the soil content in which the food is grown. Today, soil is severely depleted... unless it's organic... and so most foods are severely depleted. This is the flaw in using the Fitby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Erling - thanks for posting this... I was anxious to get home to my computer files and locate similar support for the importance of CoQ10 in cancer patients. It keeps cropping up again and again as support for what the immune system needs for optimal functioning. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Dan - I'd not rely on the banana for potassium. While it does contain potassium, it also uses it quickly in order to metabolize the sugar. Bananas are just too high in sugar content for afibbers. Check your label on the magnesium chelate to be sure it contains no calcium. Some of them do. You can't take calcium at this point in your AF journey. Typically, dosing starts with 200by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Sam - I only point out that the magnesium glycinate (Albion version only) is formulated not to breakdown in the stomach unlike other forms which do break down in the stomach (acid) and combine then with other molecules there so what becomes 'bioavailable' may not actually be what you think it is. The Albion version needs no further chemical reaction but passes through the intestinal viby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
In addition to the physical profile, athletes = severe mineral loss through copious amounts of perspiration.... frequently not replaced.... or they use 'sweetened sports' drinks which help pull out more minerals while adding just a few. Too bad sports medicine docs don't get on this band wagon. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM