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First - if you haven't seen this - do read... also: From LEF on Atrial fibrillation Magnesium and potassium. Both magnesium and potassium are intricately involved in the hearts electrical stability (Cybulski J et al 2004); consequently, maintaining normal functional blood levels and ratios of each is important. Potassium is found in every cell of the body, and magnesium, the second-most-abunby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
One may be able to get to the place where they don't need to supplement with potassium in order to have normal rhythm, but since potassium is easily depleted - simply by a diet that is too high in sodium, for example, or one that is loaded with high carb food - the body will almost always be in deficit. In some people, it manifests as hypertension. In others, the normal rhythm of the hearby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Kate - there certainly has been a connection between bacteria in periodontal disease and heart disease. I believe there are several published studies on that link and at one time periodontists were taking samples of sulcular debris and sending for analysis as a cardiac precaution measure for patients with periodontitis. I was certainly interested in the fact that H. pylori is one of the hearby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Deb - I have done both. Weaned off flecanide and also just stopped it. When I weaned off, I was taking 150 mg/twice a day and I began shaving off portions of each pill at dose time. It took about six weeks to get to zero. When I had ablation, I had been on a lower dose - like only 50 mg and just stopped as directed 24 hours before ablation. If it gives him peace of mind to wean off, thatby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Jean - consider trying to locate either of these books - you can probably find a used copy at half.com or one of the other internet sources. In many cases, hypertension can be controlled through diet and exercise. You'd be amazed how much sodium creeps into a diet that isn't derived from whole foods and sodium will replace or compete for potassium in cells - and this is especially imby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
David -great report. You may be interested in the contents of the new post I've offered about bugs in the heart. Through the use of the herbals, you may have helped eliminate some of the bugs that caused you former problems. Long may it last! Best regards, Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
A recent post about bugs, prompted me to dig out notes from two very interesting interviews discussing bugs in the heart and references to arrhythmia. From time to time, we have seen mention here of Chlamydia being hypothesized as responsible for afib. We dont see much progress along that line as to afib etiology, although many are passionate about the afib connection. I also recently clariby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Yes - benj another link indicates he is having ten teeth extracted and immediate full replacement dentures. He was concerned about the anesthesia etc. but happily, he breezed through it. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Pamela - most likely it's serum magnesium unless you requested that the doctor order an intracellular Red Blood Magnesium test. (Ionized magnesium) It's a standard lab test but not routinely ordered by doctors...although those that know about afib do order it. Your symptoms of leg cramps, twitching eye lids are both symptoms of low magnesium.... if you start taking the magnesium glby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Jan - it certainly sounds that way but we've not seen an official announcement.by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Pamela - it's important to understand that a serum magnesium "just over the lower level" means you are undoubtedly deficient. Serum magnesium is not reflective of what the intracellular stores are and that's where the magnesium works on calming heart cells. The experts say that when serum levels of magnesium are in the low range, it is almost a sure bet that the IC levels arby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
I just had an email from Bob G and he asked I post so everyone would know all went well for him. He said " It is over and it went fine. I knew nothing, just like I was hoping for. Like going to bed. Since I can't get on the BB at home, would you plase post note that so far things are well, and I had a lot of peace."by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Susan - no - this is a special muscle cramp situation.... afibbers have to be cautios with calcium supplements.... Wil has had ablation. We are attempting to figure out why he's getting leg cramps and the whole muscle action biochemistry involves all the electrolytes including a bit of calcium. This post was not a general advice post for afibbers. Special situation. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Wil - sorry to add confusing to your life.... it's obvious then that you have ample magnesium.... but either deplete fast or it's the K+ element that is missing. I'd try that first and then branch out if you still aren't satisfied...just for you...not to please me!by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Robert - then you are at your tolerance level and should back down. That's the way it works. You go up as high as you can to bowel tolerance and then back off. I made it up to 1200 mg when I first experimented and eventually manage well between 600 and 800 daily. We are all different when it comes to what depletes magnesium daily and how much we need to replenish IC stores to optimal.by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Jerry - No - but I do know that with people who have arrhythmias they usually finish off with a balancing procedure and my holistic chiropractor always balanced before ending the session. I have had many sessions of similar work and was didn't experience afib after - but then it didn't really help prevent them either... at least not until my diaphragm was adjusted and normalized inby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Speedy recover to him, Isabelle - and you be sure to take care of yourself as well. Sometimes the caregiver suffers the most. Best to you both. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Jean - potassium is potassium regardless of the form or source so you should not be supplementing with the gluconate form. Did your doctor comment to you about limiting potassium-containing foods as well? Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
October 17, 2007 Shelley Wood Rockville, MD - The FDA has approved a test that can help predict a person's likelihood of developing ischemic stroke. The assay, called the F5/F2/MTHFR Nucleic Acid Test (Nanosphere, Northbrook, IL), looks for mutations in three specific genes linked with disorders in blood coagulation and vitamin B12 (folate) metabolism. The same company makes a test forby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Wil - I, too, ask the question if you are using the glycinate form. It's highly unusual to reach bowel intolerance with 200 mg and Mg glycinate. But as we know, there are always exceptions. I've heard the doctors discussing leg cramps...and it's not always just the magnesium that can be low.... but sometimes the muscles need a bit of calcium...just a bit... (calcium citrate) anby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Chuck - a well-known and experienced EP will be able to give you factual information about how well you will fare by letting this condition continue and will probably know of many more cases that parallel yours compared to those posting here. Then you can make an educated choice as to how to proceed. You should ask about the risk of developing cardiomyopathy - that would be my immediate concby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Wil - I recall than Fran was highly sensitive to free glutamate which she eliminated by cooking at home in methods that didn't release the free glutamate...no slow or long cooking of meats and some vegetables. Remember also that she was subject to seizures - again a glutamate connection, but more importantly - a gluten sensitivity connection and she had eliminated all grains as I recall.by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Kees - I was interested in your comment that aflutter does not self-convert... that's what I was told at the CCF when I had to be cardioverted from my one flutter event. Others here seem to think they do self-convert from flutter, but I was also told that it is almost impossible to distinguish between afib and flutter without an electronic diagnostic. Any opinions on that? Thanks. Goodby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
jb - I've lived near Cleveland all my life... I agree, it would be much more fun to go to CA and spend some time afterward taking in the scenery there. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
oops - typo... ALA in this case is alpha linolenic acid - sorry. I had been typing a memo about lipoic acid and the wrong letters just slipped out to my fingertips on this post. Alpha-Linolenic Acid (ALA) What is Alpha-Linolenic Acid (ALA)? ALA is a short-chain fatty acid that is converted by the body into the long-chain fatty acids DHA and EPA. What is the role of ALA in the body? ALA isby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Dennis - we talk about losing electrolytes via loose stool or bowel intolerance all the time. It is a fact that people who may be low or marginally low in potassium will lose enough through fecal excretion to bring on afib. What is the form of magnesium you take? ie, magnesium glycinate or magnesium oxide, magnesium citrate? In case it isn't the glycinate form, just so you know, it iby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Chuck - One of the men at my former fitness center was about 60 and had permanent afib. He was not sure how long it was present as it was detected in a physical - which he hadn't had for years - and he couldn't feel it himself. He was put on coumadin. He exercised regularly and walked on the treadmill at quite a clip. Didn't slow him down at all. As Wil mentions, I often wondby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Alcohol is better than nothing but hardly effective. The dental profession used to 'alcohol off' instruments and handpieces. Along came the CDC and OSHA compliance and everything had to be either sterilized by autoclave which is steam or cold soak with an approved product that was lethal to most bugs. Or... just dispose of the instrument once used. Disposal sheaths for the stethoscoby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Flax only works if that individual is able to convert the main component of flax (alpha lipoic acid - ALA) to the EPA and DHA. Many people can't. You have to experiment. The proponents of flax argue that flax is better and the reverse is true for those managing patients in their practice who find there is a down-side to using flax. There are some studies indicating it may not be as healby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Interesting mind exercise. Regarding: we have no reason to think their efforts have accomplished anything other than delaying their progression toward a-fib, admirable though that accomplishment is. I cannot recall one person who arrested afib (without heart drugs) that has remained afib-free entirely or permanently. The early success stories- I'm thinking of Fran and Erling - both hadby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM