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My goodness! I am shocked to see such a nasty comment about the financing of this forum especially from a person who visits this site so regularly and who has probably gained considerable insight toward his own situation. If not, then I question your motives for even participating at all. Frankly, Gunnar, I was happier when you were off line and not posting. This remark is inexcusably rude anby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Susan - he manages a remarkable number of ablations and has a schedule that seems to work for him. But, he does have a waiting list in both places.by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Robert - I can't respond to what your cardiologist may have meant, but my experience is that conventional medicine MDs do not honor what integrative physicians do or promote. The conflict stems from the fact that typically integrative approaches go into testing detail that involves intracellular function that will indicate nutritional deficiencies that let down various functons along the mby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
George said: " I also think I'm an Mg waster. So I continually need to take relatively high doses. There has been some speculation (especially by Patrick Chambers, MD in some CR sessions) as to why this wasting is common in Lafers, but nothing definitive." I think that the trend for afibbers generally is that they are Type A personality.... achievers; stressed. Stress is a maby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Robert - The red blood cell test for magnesium - or ionized magnesium is as accurate as the Exatest. It's a matter of opinion as to whether the Exatest is not accurate. Mildren Seelig thought it was. It's just expensive and not all doctors will order it. My FM MD uses the RBC magnesium evaluation every 3 months or so and I'm fine with that. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Justine - note my response to Dean in the following post. While natto food is a really good option, if you are having regular occurrences of afib, it would not be wise to be consuming that much vitamin K2 - for the reason's stated to Dean. If you only occasionally have afib, (a couple times a year) the natto food may be an option. A purified enzyme product - which is free from any trby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Dean - I can't readily respond to that question.... let me look into some of the research papers I have on the biochemistry of the whole menaquinone family to see if the answer is there. Logically, I'd think that the answer would be cumulative quantities are harmful - because that's what Dr. Holsworth said was wrong with afibbers using natto food since the amount of K2 in thaby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi Tim - George has offered you very good suggestions. A really important start for you would be using both magnesium glycinate and potassium. Many of us have found that during a stressful event, afib isn't triggered, but after it's all over and we relax or retire to bed - then it starts. I'm sure you've read the comments on not triggering afib by either not eating atby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Justine - Emmie in Australia uses nattokinase. She's having an ablation right now but when she returns back to the BB here, we'll have to remember to inquire of her how she gets it and how much it costs. I know she has communicated with our nattokinase expert Dr. Holsworth and most likely they ship direct to her but we need to learn the details. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hello earthmover! If I were in Canada needing an ablation and I were not able to travel to Bordeaux, France.... I would consult with Atul Verma, MD, FRCPC Southlake Regional Health Center Staff Electrophysiologist University of Toronto, Newmarket, Toronto, Canada Dr. Verma is a former fellow from the CCF who studied under the top EP in the US, Andrea Natale, MD. If you Google Dr. Verma's naby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Getting your body healthier by supplementing what may be lacking is never a waste of time - with or without afib. The body needs certain nutrients by which to function. Some people don't eat a completely nutritional diet and others, think they do, but the foods they choose are sorely lacking in available nutrients due to growing, processing, cooking, storage, etc. If you don't get tby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Justine - remember, the whole medical community follows what is considered is the standard of care to avoid medical liability. They advise it, you have a stroke anyway, they are absolved. As Peggy points out, this is a basket of generalities for afib of all types. At at the conventions on afib,however, there is a rising concern about silent afib so they dare not neglect the opportunity toby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Joe - Medicare honors it and they are very picky about coverage. Further, I have United Health Care as secondary and they picked up the residual expenses. Not all.... but most pretty much all. A few other people have run into this 'experimental' classification... but I can't recall how they resolved it. You might consider mentioning the Medicare example and see what they saby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
One of the well-known and respected researchers at the Cleveland Clinic, David VanWagoner, PhD, has written many papers that have been posted here in the past - I'm bring them forward again for information to newcomers. The first website covers remodeling and has good visual examples. Good review of AF in general by another CCF Researcher, Mina Chung, MD. Here's a greatby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
The best reference on magnesium is the book, The Magnesium Factor, by Mildred Seelig, MD, MPH who devoted her life to magnesium research. On injections, she says this: p. 280 "Some people, fortunately very few, require very large amounts of magnesium that must be provided by injection, continuous infusions, or sustained slow tube feeding. These procedures require skilled medical care. Sucby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Brian - If you do decide to opt for amiodarone, do so with all the knowledge you can gain on both the good and the bad about this drug. Short-term, it may be useful but certainly depends on bio-compatibility. Do a search on the BB and the previous one for Amiodarone. There are a variety of testimonials pro and con for this drug including a sad story of one woman's husband who died takingby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Robert - it is felt by some doctors in the more conservative camps regarding iodine supplementation, that too much iodine - in some biochemistries - can overstimulate the thyroid and cause hyper conditions and in my case, going hyper could trigger afib. That's what Dr. Natale told me after the ablation. Iodine isn't benign, although the doctors in Camp 1 would have you think that itby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Susan - As you know, both my cardiologist who is a rhythm specialist and the EP who is Andrea Natale, supervised my use of flecanide and at no time did they every express concern about dropping dead by using it. That's not to say it doesn't have side effects and one of them is the fatal arrhythmia Torsades des pointe - but obviously it didn't affect you with that, nor was I. Perhby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Robert - I've posted in the past about this - you can do a search with those words. If you can't find or have questions after reading, let me know. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Robert - my experience is that it's difficult to find many doctors and even cardiologists that are 1) highly knowledgeable about atrial fibrillation and who are 2) nutritionally oriented as well. What has worked for me is to deal with the experts in rhythm disturbances - both cardiologists who have extra training in that area and the electrophysiologists. The EPs typically do not push fby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Robert - I agree that would indeed be a convenient shortcut. If you have access to a physician who can give you the Mg injections - go for it! It's often difficult to find doctors who understand or who will cooperate. Lynn has posted several times about her success using Mg injections. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Sarah - I'm very sorry to learn of your husband's failed ablation and I can certainly understand why he would be reluctant to consider further attempts. I'm sure it was a dreadful experience for both of you and I do hope your husband is recovering well. If going to the Cleveland Clinic is an option for you, I'd suggest you get on the waiting list and decide down the road ifby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Brian - I had many side effects including low heart rate and low blood pressure until I learned that vagals should not use beta blockers. I only took between 25 and 50 mg. twice a day - it made a zombie out of me and also helped push me into insulin resistance. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Brian - I was one who was unable to get flecanide to hold and keep away afib on a continual basis. I could go a week, two weeks, a month... and then I'd get it back. In time, I had it every day or every other day and often over 24 hours of duration. (All on the same dose as you are taking). After two trips to the ER for cardioversion that ended up as an admission and a hospital stay foby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Susan - the tendency for that to be true is possible, but many people have posted they remain free of afib for a year and much longer but can still have an afib event should all the conditions be right to allow it to happen... ie, depletion of critical electrolytes as an example. It is also said that if the atrium enlarges too much, it will become increasingly more difficult to have normal hearby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Peter - 1. nattokinase - the enzyme does what George so kindly posted here - reduces the amount of fibrinogen in the blood. 2. You should not be taking aspirin and nattokinase. Doesn't anyone read the Conference Room before going off and just adding this and that? I've been using nattokinase for over 4 years. I have low platelets but I still use 6,000 FU a day of Nattokinaseby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
William - if you intentionally want the strike-through feature and you use Word for word processing, there is a menu that provides that option. At the top of the icon strips, there is Format - go there and click Font... LH Column of options that is titled Effects gives at the first box option the strike-through feature. There may be a DOS command that does the same thing. Sorry for the OT cby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
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Larry - thanks for that explanation. I seem to be a 'wild' typist and sometimes my flying fingers hit a combination of keys that produce some very interesting results - including deleting the document I'm working on. You'd think by now, after 10 years of keyboarding on a computer, I wouldn't do that, but it's so much different from the feel of a typewriter that forby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
More on the awareness issue: Living in the shadow here of two highly respected medical/hospital systems, The Cleveland Clinic Foundation and University Hospitals affiliated with Case-Western Reserve University, School of Medicine, we are also very fortunate have a remarkable collection of practicing integrative or functional medicine type physicians. Of special interest is Sherri J. Tenpenny,by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM