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Gordon - you should email George Eby with that question - re: his post in the Conference Room and the use of arginine and taurine. Since he's advocating that afibbers try his hypothesis, he certainly should have data to either say arginine is safe or unsafe with warfarin/Coumadin. I read his post, but don't recall he mentioned it one way or the other. Jackie Further to that, Iby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Gordon - you should email George Eby with that question - re: his post in the Conference Room and the use of arginine and taurine. Since he's advocating that afibbers try his hypothesis, he certainly should have data to either say arginine is safe or unsafe with warfarin/Coumadin. I read his post, but don't recall he mentioned it one way or the other. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
William - please give me the URL where Dr. Mercola advocates eating raw meat, poultry and seafood. I'm really curious. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Lindsay - If the symptoms continue, consider finding a chiropractor to evaluate your neck and upper back area. Sleeping on your stomach is very hard on the spine. Sometimes when there is a misalignment in the cervical area (neck), there will be numbness and weakness in the arms. Chiropractors can release the tension and adjust alignment. I doubt if it's anything more serious than that.by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Gordon - it has to do with the half life of K2 versus the half-life from veggies. K2 is long - like 48 hours whereas K1 from veggies is far less. Yes, he is involved with supplements but he's also a public health doctor serving people on Indian reservations. His supplement endeavor is not his main occupation, from what I gather although he does speak world wide on the topic of nattokinaseby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Carol - go back to the BB before this one and use the search feature and the author Pete plus Amiodarone to side effects on thyroid with that drug. We are not sure of the science/reliability behind the painting on iodine for supplementation or even a test to indicate deficiency. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Roderick - One has to be very careful when experimenting with vitamin K supplements while taking warfarin/Coumadin. LEF is a latecomer to the arena of vitamin K supplementation. When I worked with Dr. Holsworth last fall, LEF was still promoting K1. I don't know if that's changed or not. Following is the announcement I did last fall after working with Dr. Holsworth on vitamin K2 in the forby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Gregg - yes - the standard tests are always serum. Unless the doctor specifically requested it for this last test, you'll have to request the red blood cell analysis for magnesium which will show intracellular magnesium. Serum potassium is a rather close reflection of intracellular, but is not always the case 100%. The accurate test is the Exatest for intracellular magnesium and potaby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
While not ususual, that's a large amount of Flecanide. I was up to that amount myself and started with the vision disturbances, etc. It is known that Flec does become pro-arrhythmic with time, but it's a Catch 22 situation. You keep increasing the dose to control afib but in turn, it can make it worse, eventually. I was able to wean down to only 100 for one dose and 50 for anotby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Ruth - if you suspect an iodine deficiency, then the urine testing as mentioned in this study, is much more reliable. I've read both pros and cons about iodine painting. Some harm can be done by flying blind. In a recent discussion with my functional medicine MD on iodine deficiency, I learned from her that she has seen patients who've come to her in desperation because of taking toby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
BillD - I have a collection of articles on celiac disease and gluten sensitivities. If you'd like to have me send them, please email me. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
BillD - I think you're on the right path in consulting with the ND. The MDs don't know much about nutritional interventions. I have some gluten/GI info stored somewhere and if I uncover it, I'll send to you. I think you are absolutely correct in assuming that something else is amiss which could be influencing afib. One suspect is the proper and adequate absorption of nutrienby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
I know I've typed this a couple of times...couldn't find it either... Pam submitted the URL for this [216.239.51.104] kGo to pages 19 and 20 - it's a bit hard to read but these are the official guidelines that indicate with no underlying structural heart defects or other risk factors as outlined, aspirin until age 75 is the standard. It gives a complete chart - but difficult toby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Kerry - I took potassium supplements with Flecanide with no problems. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Gregg - were the tests serum or did you have the red blood cell test for magnesium?by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Benj, I really hate to see you go on Coumadin; yet I see what you are saying about those long events. Has anyone (or you) been able to determine why now all this has changed? Not that we are similar, but I had a very bad time of it with lengthening events and it was then my cardiologist said to sign up for ablation with Dr. Natale. I spent two weekends in the ER due to long events and deciby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Gregg - I sat next to one of his nurses at the CCF Summit. She explained how she is a contact person for all people having ablation. She knows their cases and helps with all the details before and after ablation. I remarked at the time that every facility should have such a position and anyone going to Dr. C is certainly fortunate to have that reassurance. He is a well respected EP. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Dear Reet - so sorry for this ordeal for both of you. Glad your own heart held up throughout all of it. I truly hope Tony continues to improve with no ill effects. When one considers what might have happened, it's really frightening. I've been on this dangerous drug bandwagon for a long time now since I don't do well with Coumadin. Mine has spiked to 8 and 8.5 twice when gby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Benj - Can you get over to Dr. Pinski? He certainly has done well by Bob G and has the experience to assess your case. It seems to me it would be worth the trip for you to see him. Many cardiologists don't really have the expertise and are just tinkering with ideas. Coumadin is the CYA drug for them all but you know the AHA guidelines say unless there is structural damage or previous riby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Susan - I have MCS although milld. I do know that if I got into something really nasty, afib would start (before ablation). Fortunately, I haven't had any such experiences after ablation. We live in a toxic world and chemicals sensitivities are definitely on the rise because as Garry Gordon, MD, says.... " we have poisoned our nest." To compliment the article you reference,by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Marian - good news, but remember, you've had an ablation. If there is aspartate in the compound, it should be avoided. I don't trust companies who don't label appropriately. Glad it works for you. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Susan - this side effect of statins has been known for years. I complained of muscle weakness back in 1989 when my overzealous MD prescribed it for me. I have been left with muscle impairment ever since. At the time, he argued with me that it couldn't have been the statin. I was taking nothing else! When I had my ablation, they put me on Lipitor for healing and as a good, compliant patiby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Kerry - then why not assume you are not magnesium deficient and proceed slowly with potassium supplements. Don't add too much at one time initially. 200 - 300 mg as a start and consider taking that amount just before bedtime to see if you notice any improvement in the events at that time. I only say start slowly because it's just a wise thing to do. That way if there is an adverseby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Kerry - Sorry if I misunderstood your post. There is no danger to starting potassium supplements as long as you also know your magnesium levels since potassium supplements in the presence of intracellular magnesium deficiency will tend to make afib worse. Here's what I know based on my own testing and what my functional medicine MD says: Keep serum potassium around 4.5. When I hby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Good find, Bob. The relationship to muscle pain and statin use is well documented in holistic circles; of course, Big Pharma doesn't like to do surveys or studies that would make statins look detrimental so not much in the way of studies are published. I note they are still hedging on the fact that statins do reduce CoQ10. Even with CoQ10, problems of muscle pain can persist. The worryby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Jack - I can't answer that. Could be but I use GSE on occasion as a preventive and also as a wash for fruit and veggies and never experienced any side effect of either potentiation or blocking of which I was aware. I'm thinking that grapefruit is grapefruit and the extract of the seed is still part of that family, but not at all sure and am also not sure how we could determine that,by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Kerry - you can stop supplementation; wait a while and see if your levels go down. That will tell you if you need constant replenishing to maintain that level. Or, you can have the Exatest which actually measures the intracellular level and is the most accurate. Serum only approximates what is going on in the cell but may not always be a direct reflection. When I back off on supplementation eby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
" The onset of the interaction can occur within 30 minutes following intake of a single glass of grapefruit juice, and the inhibition can last up to 3 days following the last administration of grapefruit juice.6 " Drug Interactions with Grapefruit Juice: An Evidence-Based Overview Sam Shimomura , PharmD, FASHP, CGP Sompon Wanwimolruk , PhD Jack J. Chen , PharmD, BCPS, CGP Source:by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
And grapefruit juice or fruit can also block the action of some drugs so it needs to be avoided.by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Dave - Good news; Glad everything went well and you have a calm heart. Enjoy the peaceful bliss of NSR for the rest of your life living with passion. Be well, Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM