Darla - if you go to the CR and to the Feb. 04 post on Fibrosis and LAF.... toward the back of the introductory article... there are references by Dr. Wong and his preference... Vitalzyme. Another is Wobenzyme and Natural Factors has one - which is what Adrian mentions - Dr. Murray. I have been taking Vitalzyme since January this year. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Carol - thank Erling for revisiting this topic again.....he was the original "thinker" on this topic. The Conferrence Room topic was actually in February 04....Fibrosis occurs anywhere in the body...and not only from surgical trauma...it is the waning of natural production of enzymes that would normally take care of fibrosis...because we lack the enzymes, fibrosis builds up. It does not migraby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Lynn- This is a super report...thanks for all the details..... I truly wish you well now that you should be "cured". You deserve the chance to recover from your chemical toxicity without the threat of AF, too. Be well and let us know how you are progressing. Blessings. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Bill - I had all four veins ablated by Dr. Natale at the Cleveland Clinic here in Cleveland in November 03. It was standard procedure. The use of the ICE monitoring equipment virtually eliminates the risk of stenosis. He has been using the procedure for six years now although the ICE wasn't used in the earlier years (I think). As long as some one is in there doing an ablation, it doby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Erling - when I was doing the original CR report back in January '04....I became impressed with the knowledge of exercise physiologist, Dr. Wong and what he says about eliminating fibrosis from all parts of the body with the use of proteolytic enzymes as supplements because of the decline in our own ability to make sufficient enzymes... and this isn't just an aging factor...it'sby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Here's what I have in my files on modifying pH - based on PC's info..... Author: PC (---.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net) Date: 10-07-03 17:27 Jackie, For those new to ww and why we're a little concerned about its pH, it helps to know that all magnesium waters are basic with a pH of around 8.3 or so. This includes Noah's Adobe Springs Water, Unique Water and our very own Wallerby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Pam - Thanks so much for this web site. I haven't read much but intend to do so..... and I've already sent it to a person who intends to write a book on "medical mistakes" ..... Certainly interesting information and statistics. I was especially interested in the facts presented at the end of the page: Small Number of Dangerous Doctors Commit Most Malpractice Only 5 percent of doctors (1 oby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Pam - I understand your point....I've been there myself. Lawyers don't want tort reform because it would cut in on their income, but if an injured party was only able to sue for X amount....then malpractice insurance wouldn't cost so much. Ultimately, it is the healthcare consumer and taxpayer that foots the bill for malpractice...they get us one way or the other. The syby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Mike - The name is Erling - --- but I think it is under Waller Water.....try that in the search engine I recently reminded people that if they use this water, they need to adjust the pH with lemon juice so that it is less alkaline.... there are several past posts about this. When I get a minute, I'll try to find it for you and re-post. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Isabelle - that's really too bad. Do you have an appointment with an endocrinologist to be treated for hypothyroidism? Once you get your levels back to normal, you will start functioning again. Mary Shoman has a wonderful website about hypothyroidism....in case you want to learn the best method of replacing thyroid hormones. Good luck. You'll feel better as soon as you beginby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Howie - This was enlightening and frightening. Is tort reform the answer? Pam - just because you receive a judgment, doesn't mean you will collect on it...it just means it is owed. If the concern in question runs out of their slush fund or goes bankrupt, the patient will have no avenue to collect. As the article says...better check to see if the hospital has liability insuranceby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Peggy - mine has always been on the low to low normal side. Except, of course, when I would be in AF. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Erling - it is really great to see this fibrosis topic revisited. When I did the long Confrence Room Fibrosis examination....the main focus was that fibrosis is present in the heart and with AF....as you mention.... VonWagoner has an excellent article. You have made an important observation with the magnesium deficiency connection. In my earlier CR post I directed readers to be sure to stuby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Howie - Well, at least you tried. The short wait until January will fly by and then you can enjoy life without AF. I'm pleased to learn you had good care in spite of the outcome with Tikosyn. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Mike - that's because (as I understand it) the cells have to have adequate magnesium in order for the potassium to function. So it would be logical or reasonable to assume that until the cellular saturation (of magnesium) is reached, extra potassium might not work or might not even be advisable. Again... many people may not tolerate supplemental magnesium.... Fran, for one, can'tby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Here are some good descriptive comparisons of various brands of nattokinase....just click on the hyperlinks at this site.by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Mike - I'll have to get back into some of my resources, but what comes to mind is the obvious....magnesium in...calcium out.... and since supplements are out for you (and others), probably the simplistic answer is just continue to concentrate on a diet high in magnesium-containing foods. And.... pay attention to depleters of magnesium.... you know the list from all the many previous poby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Bob - When I see your post and I think back to when we corresponded before your ablation.... I can only say how pleased I am for you that you have come so far. I remember your concern. Your posts give encouragement to anyone who thinks their quality of life can't be improved. Certainly, you are gaining much more than you had previously, and I'm betting you will continue to improvby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Liz - That's a great testimonial. Surely you have joined us in the ranks of the cured. So glad you made it home safely. Life without afib is certainly grand. Enjoy the rest of your life. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Regarding the role of potassium.....I've typed from pp 17-18 - The Magnesium Factor by Midlred Seelig, MD Quote: Magnesium: The Silent Guardian If the level of magnesium within a cell becomes too low there are three dire results: 1. There is not enough ATP available for the cell's necessary energy actions and to maintain the "enzymatic pump" that moves potassium intoby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Dean - My comments and use of supplemental magnesium are taken right out of research studies by leading authorities such as Durlach, Altura, Seelig (she wrote a whole book called the Magnesium Factor) and a dozen other published studies. It isn't something I manufactured in my mind as folk medicine. Our own BB resident MD (PC) acknowledges the need for supplemental magnesium. However,by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
PJ - just be patient. Your heart has had quite a trauma. Are you on medication? Some patients go back on meds right away and others don't. I, personally, feel going back on meds helps the heart settle in faster. If you don't have directions to take meds, why not ask your EP if you can have an Rx? It will get better, you just have to be patient and trust that you have done the righby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Erling - Well done. Mildred Seelig, MD, the magnesium expert, and all the others who know how important magnesium is to cellular function would be proud of you. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
With elevated doses of niacin, it becomes necessary to check periodically for elevated liver enzymes and the risk of liver damage. High doses of niacin are frequently mentioned as an alternative to lowering cholesterol. Sustained release versions of niacin to reduce flushing are actually more toxic to the liver and also have withdrawal symptoms and are not recommended. The form of inositol hexby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
John - Calcium is excitatory to cells and for most afibbers - not a good idea to take additional forms of calcium....dietary calcium from dairy may or may not be a problem....depends on the individual. My experience was that I used to always take a calcium/magnesium supplement at bedtime and I soon had the "aha" moment that made the connection. between calcium supplements and AF.by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Susan - thanks for the info about Dr. Natale's waiting list. The last thing Dr. Natale is is a "marketer" for ablations at CCF. And he isn't the only EP at the clinic doing ablations, either, there are at least six other very fine EP's who don't have the waiting time he does. He's just an extremely competent, skilled EP, but a very humble clinician. Whenby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Ritva - type into Google search Flite Tabs and you will find sites where you can order them online. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Glenn - there was a clot in the LAA.....(after 39 hours of AF) and I was not taking anything....other than my Omega 3's and other anti-platelet supplements. I was not taking nattokinase then... nor was I on Coumadin...having just gone off it when I stopped the heart drugs after PVI ( at 2 months). After the clot issue....I began taking and continue to take nattokinase. It's difby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Dean - you are most likely one of the people who does not get along with supplemental magnesium.... if it were too much, your body would just dump it out through bowel elimination. 250 mg. daily of magnesium glycinate is well below the daily requirement for body function. There is always the consideration that something in the supplement, itself, is contributing to the problem... a fillerby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Peggy - I heard from Howie that they were not affected there by the storm. Today Howie is at the CCF here in Cleveland for his trial of Tikosyn and cardioversion.... Let's all wish him success. Angels to Howie. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM