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To all thus far..... here's the thing.... The clot should be gone by now. It was discovered on 3/3. I continue with nattokinase just because I think it is something anyone my age should consider for the rest of their lives. My 6/2 echo was probably a CYA for the Clinic... obviously, they dropped the ball in not contacting me immediately when the CT scan was read. In fact, if I hadnby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi all ~ I think you will l find this both interesting and perhaps, alarming. As you know, Ive been touting my natural protocols for anti-platelet aggregation or clumping ever since I joined this forum. My protocols are doctor-directed and the intention was to avoid a clot but also to avoid using Coumadin. My Pro-times have always been at the upper limit of normal like in the 14-15 rangby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi David S -- The book I quoted in a previous post says that the root is used for general tonic and mild liver remedy. The leaves used as a mild diuretic and weight loss. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Mike - Good news. Now relax. It's good to know that you have such a good doctor and if you need him...he's there. Glenn.... I exercise with a man who is about 67 and a few years ago, he had a physical and they discovered AF. He didn'tn know it. Still doesn't know it...he's on drugs but still in AF. I'm with you... unless I had some stealth events, I alwby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Cillia - No. I didn't have the Lovenox protocol. Was on Coumadin two weeks prior to determine a therapeutic level for post ablation dosing. Stopped 4 days prior. Back on it the afternoon of the PVI. PVI by Dr. Natale in Cleveland at the CCF. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Charlie - I didn't express myself well....I meant when and if you do get ablation.... burns from that.... The only burns from cardioversion are on the surface of the chest and back....depending on how many joules are used to convert. Sorry. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
I just posted advice to Charlie in a previous thread...about cardioversion.. you need to order Hans book on Thrombosis and Stroke Prevention immediately. You can't risk going that long (6 days) in AF without some anti-platelet clotting product of some type. I don't blame you on the Coumadin issue, but his new book is packed with statistics and recommendations about natural anti-clottiby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
So Faith - why can't you space out the magnesium supplements to avoid the BP doses? Surely the Magnesium is going to do you much more good in the long run. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Charlie - Depends on how many times you want to be cardioverted before your ablation. If running is a trigger, why would you want to trigger an event? I think if you are scheduled for an ablation, you would be well advised to keep your heart as calm as possible until that time so that it recovers from the burns easily and quickly and you have a successful ablation. Just my own opinion. Nby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Joyce - this is fun. I checked my herbal book by Michael Murray, ND.... The Healing Power of Herbs. He has a whole section on the applications for dandelions...mostly for liver health and digestion. Although here's one part Diuretic and weight loss effects: Dandelion leaves have confirmed diuretic activity. In one study in mice, dandelion exerted a diruetic activity ocmparable tothaby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Carol - When I originally consulted with Dr. Natale, (April 03) I inquired about catheter ultrasound and the fact that at that time, Dr. Wharton, was going to be doing a trial of that particular procedure. (That trial didn't materialize as far as I know.) Dr. Natale said he had previously tried that form of ablation, found it to be unsatisfactory, and wasn't interested in going furtheby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Well Liz - you didn't even tell us so we could send in angels. Just hang in there. Everyone responds so differently. I had no ripples at all - just a few minor PACs and then almost 3 months after the ablation, I had a run of AF that had to be cardiioverted. Stan kept going into flutter and eventually had a touchup. There seems to be no yardstick to measure progress or lack of - each cby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Susan - Good for you. I have just begun to work the soil in my organic beds. The rain and cold weather all spring will make it a very late start- again. Last year it was the same and the production was poor, but it's still the only way to go. I grew up planting a garden every year and continue to this day...smaller every year, though. My parents were organic gardeners before it wasby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Garry - I totally agree that flecanide is not a good drug. It may be helpful for conversion and I think the best way to take it, if one has to, is on demand. That was never an option presented to me and I even tried to get it prescribed that way. I noted eye problems, possibly thinning hair from that source, and a tongue problem the oral surgeon thinks was caused by it. The long-term sidby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Jan - No - wait - I didn't "try" it as an experiment.... ...it was "prescribed" for me - actually given to me as a dosing regimen in the hospital - I went there because AF was going over 24 hours. That time, I self converted after about 39 hours while I was cooling my heels over a weekend so I could have cardioversion on a Monday. This is how it came about. That isby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Richard - that's a very good post and very good points about not enough stomach acid. It was true in my case and solved alot of symptoms. This is important information. Thanks for reminding us again. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Richard - probably race horses lose potassium much as we do...you know the expression...sweat like a horse....well, they lose alot of sweat and I'm not at all surprised at arrhythmia. I would think that a horse heart functions much the same as ours. In lab experiments, they use dogs for induced arrhythmia experiments so the response to the stimulii must be similar enough. One would thby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thor - congratulations.... 16 weeks is a good amount of time so you are probably "cured." It's a nice feeling, isn't it? Enjoy life. Enjoy NSR. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Jeanne - Stay calm. I had various sensations for the first few weeks but nothing I could actually define. The heart is considered to be in a state of irritability for six to eight weeks after ablation and I'm sure each of us responds in our own way as the body heals. And as Thor mentions... how much ablating was done. I'm glad to hear both you and Thor and doing well. It just taby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Jan- I'm sorry you had such an unfortunate experience. The problem is....how will we know when our biochemistry isn't compatible with the prescribed drugs.... Your experience is most unfortunate. For one of my "drug experiments" I was given the combo of atenolol and Flecanide. Actually, I had been on Flecanide, the atenolol was new. Didn't have any reaction other thanby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Barbara - thanks for posting this...it is one of the references in the original post... I didn't want to add to the length of my introductory post by including the article, but it is very intriguing because it does spell out how most of us came to be exposed and perpetuate the harboring of this potential pathogen. Important information regardless of AF. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
TomT - Thanks so much for your report. I'm very happy for you that it all went so well. I'm also happy to receive another really good report about having ablation in Florida area with Dr. Pinski. It will help others in your area with decisions as to where they should go. Now you can get on with your life--at last! Please stay in touch to let us know your progress. Be well, Jackby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Stan and Anton - Thanks for taking the time to clarify this. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
oops sorry - Garth Nicholson.... spelled it with an "h".... old habits die hard. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Fran - That's really a disappointing report about your sister. I've read quite a number of the reports by Dr. Nicholson and the side effects you report are apparently normal.... the candida invades the gut and allows other antigens access to the blood creating a host of other allergic responses... each has to be treated at the same time or exactly what happend to your sister is the reby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Health Alert Presented by Dr. James H. Martin of Sarasota, FL. He is a chiropractor who is also a naturopathic physician and runs a large detox clinic in Florida. 6 REASONS TO TAKE NUTRITIONAL SUPPLEMENTS & One BIG REASON TO LIMIT SUGAR INTAKE · The average American has 1000 times more toxic metals than our ancestors did before the dawning of the industrial age. Toxins shut down the abby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Dick - That's a nice upbeat report and a great reflection of your happy state of mind. NSR after PVI is, indeed, wonderful. I agree. Regarding the comment about other PV focal points cropping up, I think that everyone who has had ablation should take note of this and take steps to ensure that the heart tissue remains uninflammed, unirritated and well supplied with the critical electrolytby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi Jim - Please read your email.. I've sent you information of interest. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Dear Fran - my prayers continue for you and your sister. May she be at peace soon. I'm sure these days are long and stressful; try to meditate and get to a peaceful place in your own body to escape. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Pete - maybe everyone is so "cured" they aren't reading the BB any longer. That should be a darn good testimonial, if we only knew who the EP's were. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM