Independent testing is done but several reputable organizations, one example is Consumer Laboratories which does a decent job of highlighting those relatively few supplement makers who do not meet the standards of what is claimed on their own labels. The relatively small price to pay for the huge advantages of avoiding the stifling and killing effect of over regulation of the supplement industby Shannon - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
Hi Steve, You can safely replace the aspirin with Cardiokinase which is the best form of Nattokinase produced following pharmaceutical level quality control. Dr Sumi who discovered Nattokinase helped develop the new and more potent 'N-Strain' of Nattokinase that is Cardiokinase and fully supports its use. While I should not cause any bleeding issues during the surgeries, just to beby Shannon - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi KIttymama. if your Doc gave you the green light to taper off, you can go at whatever taper rate is comfortable for you. For most people on only 25mg making once step down to 12.5mg and then stopping after 5 days to a week is fine and typically will not cause anything more than perhaps a transient small increase in HR for a few days, if even that. But some people, apparently such as yourby Shannon - AFIBBERS FORUM
As George noted, you can toss the idea that Vagal rarely if ever progresses to persistent AFIB.. what often happens is that uncontrolled vagal over time can also progresse into a mixed bag of vagal and adrenergic influences on the way toward enough remodeling resulting in eventual persistent AFIB at which point the distinctions tend to disappear. Keep in mind these are not fast and fixed definby Shannon - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi researcher, Yes, I noticed that too with the same center having split recommendations. I wonder how many of those in that group who were more hesitant to recommend ablation were actually trained in doing them and how many had not included crossing over into the left atrium as part of their tool kit?? I prefer going to an EP who not only has great clinical and diagnostic skill, and can aby Shannon - AFIBBERS FORUM
Iatrogenia, It's no doubt a little bit of both plus a healthy dose of looking too far into the review mirror in determining their 'feel' or sense of where ablation tech really stands now for docs especially who are not in the front lines doing ablations. This disparity also reflects the still very real gap we emphasize here between the overall quality of results from the stiby Shannon - AFIBBERS FORUM
Id be a little surprised Stephan if you developed an actual clot in the left atrial appendage with only a one hour window with 'potentially' less than optimal anti-coagulation onboard. These drugs don't just disappear immediately from a full strength status so there is a sliding scale of effect on all of them. It typically takes a little time, unless you have a not so common serby Shannon - AFIBBERS FORUM
HI Joe, As noted above by several, if your are even close to the lower half of the serum reference range on Magnesium you are for sure frankly low on intracellular Magnesium. In addition those that experience a fair amount of anxiety are almost certainly low in magnesium as well. Magnesium isnt always a stand alone solution for anxiety but frequent anxiety typical has mag deficiency as a majoby Shannon - AFIBBERS FORUM
I fully agree Iatrogenia, no time like the present to get started and then do a baseline Exatest as soon as possible as well. It typically takes up to 6 months or more to start filling the tank in a depleted person as the vast majority of Afibbers surely are so starting now is not going to really skew the test results much in any event in the early going. By all means start implementing the stby Shannon - AFIBBERS FORUM
Iatrogenia, It's no doubt a little bit of both plus a healthy dose of looking too far into the review mirror in determining their 'feel' or sense of what ablation tech really stands now for docs especially who are not in the front lines doing ablations. This disparity also reflects the still very real gap we emphasize here between the overall quality of results from averageby Shannon - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thanks Janet for your kind words, I hope all is well with you too and that you are making some headway on the search we discussed by PM? And Liz RBC magnesium testing is a better choice over regular serum mag and I use it periodically for spot testing but its range is relatively narrow and needs tighter interpretation. For example, you want to test in the upper third of the RBC range to typicaby Shannon - AFIBBERS FORUM
Interesting that there was actually a study investigating the presumed recommendation bias of EPs who know how to do ablations versus those who don't! :-) I hope they didn't waste too much money on that project as the result was as predictable as the sun rising in the east and says little, inherently, of much value as far as I can discern. Its only common sense that those EPs whoby Shannon - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi Joe, You might well be able to get things under control with a thorough and dedicated adherence to the protocols linked too above. You have to really give it a good solid investigation and trial for the next 6 months to a year. Preferrably making it a permanent life style modification as, beyond possibly helping to keep a lid on your AFIB it will very likely help improve your overall healtby Shannon - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi Joe, Have been away a couple days, I see you got some good advice as usual from GeorgeN and Hans so make sure to follow up on those and in particular read Hans protocol and The Strategy and adopt those protocols fully in the manner in which they are suggested in both Hans program and as is spelled out within the Strategy. You also need to insure you are restoring adequate intracellular mby Shannon - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi Jim, Good to hear from you again after a long while ...and with such good news .... chalk up another one for the Italian Maestro! Cheers! Shannonby Shannon - AFIBBERS FORUM
Oops duplicate post, how do I delete this Hans?? Thanks Shannonby Shannon - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi Liz,' Yes and thanks for bringing this point up. It's important not to try a so called 'pill in the pocket' approach with Xeralto or Eliquis without first getting your EP or Cardios approval as I indicated when saying you need to get this on hand supply from your Doc first. This would only be for a very short time of a few days tops. And while they warn about abruptly stby Shannon - AFIBBERS FORUM
Iatrogenia Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Shannon, what bio-identical hormone replacement > are you taking? Did you start it in connection > with afib treatment? Hi Iatrogenia and Rob50, Sorry for the delay in reply, I just saw both of your replies. Thanks Rob for the kind words. And Iatrogenia, BHRT (BioIdentical Hormone Replacement Thby Shannon - AFIBBERS FORUM
Lon, what year did you have your ablation with Natale? If he just addressed some hot spots within the LAA, which is common when he finds activity there during a first ablation, it s quite possible the LAA is now becoming a more significant trigger source and might need full LAA isolation. In any event, check with Dr Natale as it is possible that a Lariat Procedure might do be enough to do the triby Shannon - AFIBBERS FORUM
TomB, The issue will not be resolved to the degree of confidence and satisfaction you and everyone would prefer, until and unless a very deep pocketed company or research institute was willing to fund the large scale randomized clinical trials that would be needed to get a better idea of where Nattokinase stands relative to the big pharma blood thinners. Alas, being a non-patentable substaby Shannon - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi Jean, An additional clarification to what Researcher shared, the robotics that Natale's group uses is only for Ventricular arrhythmia ablations and they don't use the Stereotaxis robotics system for AFIB ablations which are all done by hand using cutting edge catheters and Carto-3 3D mapping technology. I would be surprised if Dr Wharton uses robotics for AFIB ablations but Im surby Shannon - AFIBBERS FORUM
Yep, Nattokinase and occasional Ibuprofen are no problem Louise ... Shannonby Shannon - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi Randy, Welcome to the progression club! Alas, Im sorry to hear you are now moving toward charter membership. It sounds like you have been very diligent and proactive in learning about and taking care of those things that are within your control and have been consistent about it from what you wrote. This is a typical story Randy and you have done well, but this beast is often relentlesslyby Shannon - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi LOn, Really sorry to hear about your scary CVA event and glad it was so quickly and professionally treated and sounds like you will make a full and complete recovery which is a relief! This is a good example of why I think its important to also maintain and on-going natural blood thinning regime for life, even after getting the green light to go off pharmaceutical blood thinners. Itsby Shannon - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi Tom and Betty, Yes this is classic 'electrolytes are too low' behavior. Often times this depletion of potassium, magnesium and often both go hand in hand for quite some time before it will manifest as these meandering heart rates but typicallly staying in NSR even if swinging between borderline 'tachy' and borderline 'brady'. It can also take some time to restby Shannon - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thanks again everyone! Back home now and done with the tests and all for a long time hopefully. Dr Natale gave me the thumbs up and the coast is all clear now sign after reviewing this latest TEE report as well. In addition to no thrombi or SEC (spontaneous echo contrast) or 'smoke' in the LA and near the old mouth of the LAA ... Or where it used to be .. What had still been aby Shannon - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi researcher, I still think they must have at least one clone of him running around .. The thing is, Dr N at 52 years old is in the prime of his stellar career and is utterly dedicated and passionate about this field and strongly feels this is the time, with knowledge about AFIB exploding, to really help make his major contribution for everyone's benefit. The thing that amazes me tby Shannon - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi All, My wife and I are just back at the hotel here on Scottsdale after my Monday 3pm TEE with Dr Cataldo (my very skilled local Arizona EP that Dr Natale referred me too for local follow up). As some of you may recall, after getting a clean positive result from my first follow up a month ago in San Fran and which was 6 weeks after my Lariat Procedure in Austin with Drs Natale and Burkhardt,by Shannon - AFIBBERS FORUM
Barb, you absolutely under no circumstance should stop XEralto until Dr N tells you too! As we discussed on the phone after your ablation, since you required an LAA isolation from all teh excess scarring and fibrosis that resulted in so much activity from your LAA, you cannot stop Xeralto until you get the results of the TEE in five more months. Only if your LAA flow rate is high enough can yby Shannon - AFIBBERS FORUM
Yes Barb, High CRP is definitely to be expected from all the inflammation from burning. Normally it will come down good bit by 6 weeks but you could easily have been at 30 or higher in the first week after ablation. Take Zyaflamend., Omega 3, Vitamin D and added Curcumin. Shannonby Shannon - AFIBBERS FORUM