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Ablation in Bordeaux January 2003, now into my 10th year of nsr. Gave me my life back, best thing I ever did. Gillby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Adrian I wish you well in Bordeaux. I had my ablation there more than 9 years ago, after being in AF 24/7 for 18 months. AF recurred after 2 days but they did a second ablation immediately and, except for one 2-hour episode 10 days later, I have been in sinus rhythm ever since. You will be in good hands. Gillby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Who did your previous ablations, and where? Is s/he one of the best in terms of skill and experience? If not, I would change EP, find one of the best, and try another ablation. Barry G, who posts here sometimes, was a very difficult case. He had many ablations but persevered, eventually going to Bordeaux three times but the last we heard he was happily in nsr and feeling great. Gillby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Murray 10 years ago I was researching ablations for persistent AF, particularly in Bordeaux. I first saw Prof. Haissaguerre in September 2002 and told him that the EPs in London had said that his success rate was 20%. He said that had previously been true, but in May that year they had changed the way they did the procedure and their success rate was now 78%. That was when I decided to goby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Tara I take supplements because I get many many ectopic beats. They used to be very uncomfortable but when I take magnesium, potassium and taurine I don't feel them at all. My EP knows that I take them, is happy with it and makes a note of them in my records. He says that he can't make any comment on their effectiveness because he has not seen any reliable evidence. To me thisby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Krista Didn't see your post for a few days, so I'm putting this in a new thread hoping that you will see it. I do indeed remember the time you went to Bordeaux, and I'm glad that things are going well for you. I still send an email to Profs Haissaguerre and Jais every year on the anniversary of my ablation thanking them for giving me my life back - I always get a reply from themby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Brian For many years I had paroxysmal AF. The episodes became longer and more frequent, until eventually they all joined up. In Bordeaux in January 2003, after 18 months of continuous AF, I had ablation, followed three days later by a second (because AF recurred). I had one 2-hour episode of AF 10 days later, but have been in sinus rhythm ever since. I had previously tried several medicationby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Pour encourager les autres... January 7th, 2003, Bordeaux, ablation for long-term persistent AF. January 10th, 2003, AF recurred so 2nd ablation done immediately because I had travelled so far. January 16th, 2003, 2-hour episode of AF, stopped by itself. Since then, 9 years of glorious nsr. Some of us get lucky! Gillby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Lesley It's a long time ago now, and my experience may not help you much, but here it is, for what it's worth. When I first saw Professor Haissaguerre in Bordeaux in September 2002 and he agreed to do my ablation, he advised me to apply for an E112. He had already treated one UK patient who had succeeded in getting one. At that time only 2 EPs in UK were doing ablations, they had just startedby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Murray When I was looking for an ablation in 2002 there were only 2 EPs in England who were doing them, and they had only just started. There are many doing it now, with varying degrees of success. Professor Haissaguerre and Dr Jais in Bordeaux invented the procedure and have more experience than anyone in UK. If he can afford it then it is without doubt the best place to go. It's only a 1½by Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Maria Glad you've got your fighting spirit back. Seems to me you are almost there, and a second ablation might well give you nsr for many years, especially since your EP is one of the best in the world. If I were you I would definitely go for it. BarryG, who posts here sometimes, was one of the most difficult cases Bordeaux had ever treated, but he kept going and finally was free of Afibby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Maria I went to Bordeaux in January 2003 for my ablation and AF recurred after 2 days. I had a second ablation immediately, and have been in nsr ever since, getting on for 9 years now. I can eat whatever I like, exercise as much as I like and live life to the full. I take no prescribed medication. I am certain I did the right thing in having the second ablation and have never regretted my deciby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Brashy Could you remind us who did your ablations, and where? And why did it take so many to get you into nsr? Gill (nsr since 2 ablations in Bordeaux Jan 2003)by Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Murray Before my ablation in Bordeaux in 2003 Professor Haissaguerre said that it would help a lot if I could lose 20 lbs, which I did (and more). So weight loss might be something that would help you too. Gillby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Erich I had ablation in Bordeaux in January 2003 after 18 months of continuous Afib. It recurred after 3 days so another ablation was done immediately. I have been in sinus rhythm since then. A second ablation is often needed for continuous Afib, but it is definitely possible. Gillby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
I have been in sinus rhythm for over 8½ years since my ablations in Bordeaux in January 2003. In June, five days after having a total knee replacement, I ended un in A&E with palpitations and possible AF. Today I have the results of a 24 hour tape, which showed lots of ectopics, as always, but NO AF. My GP thinks I had an allergic reaction to Tramadol, a painkiller I was given in the hospital,by Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Tom Prof Haissaguerre said at the time that it was possible the AF would have stopped by itself, and if I had lived locally he would have waited. But because I had travelled from London he did the second ablation right away. Remember that this was a long time ago, and I am sure things have changed a huge amount since then. When BarryG, who posts here, was in Bordeaux more recently Dr Hocini tby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Jenny After many years of paroxysmal AF and 18 months of persistent, I went to Bordeaux for ablation in January 2003. AF recurred after 3 days so they did another ablation immediately. I had one 2-hour episode of AF 10 days later, but since then have been in sinus rhythm for 8½ years. I get many ectopic beats, up to 8000 in 24 hours, which the doctors say are a nuisance but not harmful. Theyby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
JohnTee Jackie is absolutely right. When I went to Bordeaux for ablation in 2002 they did a TOE (TEE) beforehand. I had been on Warfarin for over a year, with INR in the required range but they found a clot and postponed the ablation. Gillby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
John I took warfarin while in long-term persistent AF for 18 months before my ablation. I hated every minute of it. My INR levels varied and I wanted to be sure I was in the correct range so I had frequent blood tests. This meant joining the queue of grey-faced, sickly old people with heart disease shuffling into the phlebotomy department clutching their little yellow record books. Before myby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Janet I had continuous sedation in Bordeaux and it was just fine. I was drowsy and sleepy and don't remember much about it. Gillby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
I have been in nsr for 8½ years post ablation in Bordeaux. On the advice of my EP I take 75mg enteric coated aspirin daily with no digestive or other problems. When I saw him last week for a checkup he said that my CHADSVASC score is now 2 (one point for age 73, one point for female), there are doubts about aspirin being effective, and that I should take Warfarin to avoid a stroke. I am not wiby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Sujo I had ablation in Bordeaux in January 2003. AF recurred after 3 days so they did a second one, and I left the hospital in nsr. 10 days later I had an episode of AF and was in despair, but I self converted after 2 hours and have been in nsr since then - 8½ years. Hang in there! Gillby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Heather I posted this on another thread by mistake, re-posting it here. After my ablation in Bordeaux in 2003 Professor Haissaguerre told me that if the many ectopics I get were bothering me I could take bisoprolol. His exact words were 'It is like a shield for the heart'. Don't know if this helps you though. Gillby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Heather After my ablation in Bordeaux in 2003 Professor Haissaguerre told me that if the many ectopics I get were bothering me I could take bisoprolol. His exact words were 'It is like a shield for the heart'. Don't know if this helps you though. Gillby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Katy Search for posts with Barry G as author - I think he had 5 before he achieved nsr. I had 2 in Bordeaux, the second one was three days after the first because AF recurred. Prof. Haissaguerre thought there could be a gap in one of the lines but this was not the case. He found an extremely toxic focus in the coronary sinus. Gill (nsr for 8½ years since ablations)by Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
I think it's worth pointing out that the Haissaguerre group are part of the University Hospitals of Bordeaux, so they are motivated by academic and research interests rather than money - a very different situation from the USA. Gillby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Janet During my successful ablation in Bordeaux in 2003 I had sedation rather than anaesthetic and remember being asleep or very drowsy most of the time. I felt a slight burning sensation at one point in the procedure and said that it hurt. The nurse said that they had almost finished that bit and asked me if it was bearable - I said that it was, and they continued. It really wasn't badby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
I have been in nsr for 8½ years since ablation in Bordeaux, though I do get a lot of ectopic beats. 10 days ago I had a total knee replacement, and they pumped into me (someone who usually takes zero prescription drugs) a general anaesthetic, nerve blocks, two sorts of antibiotics, morphine, paracetamol, a pain killer called Tramadol, pradaxa and who knows what else. The Tramadol in particularby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM
Kevin Interesting - Dr O'Nunain was the first EP I was referred to when I told my cardiologist that I wanted ablation rather than medication. That was way back in 2001 at King's College hospital. I asked him about Professor Haissaguerre in Bordeaux, and he told me that many people thought he exaggerated his success rates, but he knew someone who had worked with the team there who saiby Gill - AFIBBERS FORUM